Where do you park the bike? Would it be illegal for it to be in the parking lot?
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:19 PM <t...@ottcmail.com> wrote: > The federal government repeatedly has cut budgets for park and recreation > areas over the past 20 years. At this point our tax dollars actually do not > cover even a bare bones budges for these areas and fees for parking and > other services are an increasingly important part of their budgets. > Perhaps a "Friends of Gateway National Recreation Area" could be formed by > birders or a local bird club and used to raise funds, which would make > birders part of the financial picture without placing a burden on those who > have less money to pay for a permit or a Lyft ride? > > On 2/3/2022 7:08 PM, Adelia Honeywood wrote: > > When I went recently we parked at Fort Tilden and then took a Lyft over to > the Fisherman's Lot at Breezy. You can also take the Q35 bus until just > over the Marine Pkwy Bridge and take an Uber or Lyft from there. > > I agree with Stanley though that a national park is supposed to be > accessible to all - or at least to a wider pool of stakeholders. The NPS in > recent years has been very public campaigning to attract greater diversity > in visitors. Having an area that is accessible to nobody but a gated > community and a few permit holders is not in keeping with their stated > values regarding a public resource (which all of our tax dollars pay for). > Reaching out to the Congressional reps and the Parks Service itself to > point this out couldn't hurt and may attract attention. > > (And I realize in saying this, that it will still only be most easily > accessible to drivers, which is a bigger issue...) > > On Thursday, February 3, 2022, 06:12:09 PM EST, Stanley Greenberg > <greenbergph...@gmail.com> <greenbergph...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible > to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there > sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some > birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway > management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that > people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch > (birds). > > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my > guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). > > L. Trachtenberg > Ossining NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you > need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this > unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season. > It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort > Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it from the > organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is also about > money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no parking space. > From my experience that is not true. There are always lots of empty spots. > I was planning to go, but we cannot. > > Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another > driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver > gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back to > the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., complicated, > but possible, Bird different areas and take turns. > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the permit > you can be towed. > Bob O’Neill > On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy > Point? 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