For the Donabe meeting, Rick had said we would have it lsat Wed at 3pm PST on IRC and last week he said he was postponing the meeting by a week. So anecdotal evidence suggests its this Wed, 3pm PST on IRC (CCing Rick so that we have confirmation).
The proposal doesn't have detailed agenda because I just put a placeholder session for now. I guess the goal would be to look at 1) APIs 2) Declarative languages 3) Scheduling containers and more Debo From: Salvatore Orlando [mailto:salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:45 AM To: Debo Dutta (dedutta); Dan Wendlandt Cc: netstack@lists.launchpad.net; Thierry Carrez Subject: RE: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq Hi Debo, I saw that Donabe session, although I have to say the description is probably not very informative. Do we have a Donabe meeting this week? I must have lost some emails. Could you please forward me meeting details? Thanks, Salvatore From: Debo Dutta (dedutta) [mailto:dedu...@cisco.com] Sent: 19 September 2011 17:43 To: Salvatore Orlando; Dan Wendlandt Cc: netstack@lists.launchpad.net; Thierry Carrez Subject: RE: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq On that same note: there is a Donabe session that has been registered .... I guess we can discuss the donabe session stuff during this week's Donabe meeting. regards debo From: netstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:netstack-bounces+dedutta=cisco....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Salvatore Orlando Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:40 AM To: Dan Wendlandt Cc: netstack@lists.launchpad.net; Thierry Carrez Subject: Re: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq I agree with your approach. I see Ram has already proposed a couple of sessions. It might be worth start registering sessions at least for phase 1 activities, just to make sure to get a slot in the session. I also think "Phase 1" sessions should be marked as "design" rather than "brainstorming". What's your opinion? Salvatore From: Dan Wendlandt [mailto:d...@nicira.com] Sent: 19 September 2011 17:14 To: Salvatore Orlando Cc: Ram Durairaj (radurair); netstack@lists.launchpad.net; Thierry Carrez Subject: Re: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq Hi folks, Great to see the Essex discussion starting up. I know there are several parties looking to integrate advanced network services (e.g., L3 forwarding, firewalling, load balancing, WAN bridging, WAN optimization, etc.) with Quantum. Such services are a key part of why we wanted to develop Quantum in the first place, and I definitely don't want to down play that. I do, however, think we have to be a bit careful about trying to boil the ocean at the design summit. We probably aren't going to get everyone to agree on an API for all L3-L7 network services in a three day span and trying to do so might risk taking the focus off of vary practical things that we need to do to make sure Quantum a scalable and production quality system for those looking to take it into production during the Essex time period (I know we have a set of customers in this class, and I'm guessing others on this list do as well). I would propose a 3-phase summit approach for NetStack: - Phase 1: well-scoped / practical blueprints (e.g., API v1.1, improving API auth, vmware/bridge plugins). - Phase 2: discuss general design of how we insert higher-level network services. This will talk about how such services can interact with Quantum, but does not attempt to design the service itself. Given the number of different groups I expect to be working in this space in the coming months, I definitely think we want to give the community a structure for how such services should or should not be integrated. As I mentioned last week, I will be putting together a blueprint on this and would welcome participation by others. - Phase 3: discuss details (e.g., supported functionality, API) of specific advanced network services. Probably the most likely candidates based on discussions at the diablo summit are security policies/ACLs, L3 functionality, and WAN-bridging/DC-interconnect. The expectation would be that at the summit we at least come up with a basic framework for how these services might integrate with Quantum (with respect to the phase 2 discussion) and start to build a core group of people interested in working on them during the Essex timeframe. What do others think about this approach? Dan On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Salvatore Orlando <salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com> wrote: Hi Ram, Thanks for sharing your proposed sessions for the design summit. I think that for this summit we will not be creating blueprints and them propose them for "sprint" as we did for Diablo, but we should rather propose sessions on the summit.openstack.org/sessions. However, since we are going to have our own track, it will be good to hear some organizational details from Thierry how many sessions we can fit in it. All the elements in your list make perfect sense for me. However, I'm afraid I do not understand very well what do you mean by "Hybrid Cloud Service Framework". Can you elaborate a bit more on this? I think your list is not very far from mine, and we can probably merge them as follows: 1. L3 networking services (beyond IPAM) 2. Higher layer network services (L4/L7) 1. Firewall and Security Groups 2. Network Acceleration Services Insertion Framework LB, Symmetric services - Acceleration services and so on 3. NAT 4. VPN Access 3. Quantum "Basic" Plugin 1. Linux Bridge 2. Solution supporting all hypervisor platforms including ESX/Hyper-V 4. Hybrid Cloud Service Framework 5. Quantum API v1.1 1. Synchronous vs Asynchronous behaviour and concept of "Operational Status" 2. Improvements such as Filtering, Rate Limiting, Resource Links, pagination 6. Cloud Bridging APIs in Quantum From: Ram Durairaj (radurair) [mailto:radur...@cisco.com] Sent: 19 September 2011 16:21 To: Salvatore Orlando; netstack@lists.launchpad.net Cc: Thierry Carrez Subject: RE: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq Hello Salvatore and all: We suppose to have a Netstack track...Its good to follow-up with Thierry to group all the Net stack related blueprint and sessions in one track for all the interested community participants to contribute and discuss. In addition to the list, here are few more items from our side: 1. L3 Service - As a service as Quantum 2. Hybrid Cloud Service Framework 3. Network Acceleration Services Insertion Framework (LB, Symmetric services - Acceleration services and so on) 4. Quantum Asynchronous API mode 5. Quantum Security Groups support 6. Quantum "Basic Plugin (Linux bridge?) Few more services we are discussing internally and we will add them here. Thanks Ram From: netstack-bounces+radurair=cisco....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:netstack-bounces+radurair <mailto:netstack-bounces%2Bradurair> =cisco....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Salvatore Orlando Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:49 AM To: netstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq Hello fellow NetStackers, The list of proposed session at http://summit.openstack.org/sessions is filling up, and I think it is time we start proposing our own sessions as well. Actually, there are already two accepted sessions for NetStack: 1. Donabe/API models: http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/29 2. Continuous integration planning: http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/35 On top of these two, I would also consider having the following sessions (in order of importance): 1. Higher layer network services (L4/L7), e.g.: Firewall, NAT, VPN 2. Improved authorization framework for Quantum, with a full RBAC model. 3. Quantum API v1.1 a. Synchronous vs Asynchronous behaviour and concept of "Operational Status" b. Improvements such as Filtering, Rate Limiting, Resource Links, pagination 4. Cloud Bridging APIs in Quantum What's your opinion? 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