On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Salvatore Orlando < salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> I agree with your approach.**** > > I see Ram has already proposed a couple of sessions.**** > > It might be worth start registering sessions at least for phase 1 > activities, just to make sure to get a slot in the session.**** > > I also think “Phase 1” sessions should be marked as “design” rather than > “brainstorming”. > I think the design vs. brainstorming distinction makes sense. I'll work with Thierry to make sure we have a sane ordering once everything has been proposed. Dan > **** > > ** ** > > What’s your opinion?**** > > ** ** > > Salvatore**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Dan Wendlandt [mailto:d...@nicira.com] > *Sent:* 19 September 2011 17:14 > *To:* Salvatore Orlando > *Cc:* Ram Durairaj (radurair); netstack@lists.launchpad.net; Thierry > Carrez > *Subject:* Re: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq* > *** > > ** ** > > Hi folks,**** > > ** ** > > Great to see the Essex discussion starting up. **** > > ** ** > > I know there are several parties looking to integrate advanced network > services (e.g., L3 forwarding, firewalling, load balancing, WAN bridging, > WAN optimization, etc.) with Quantum. Such services are a key part of why > we wanted to develop Quantum in the first place, and I definitely don't want > to down play that. **** > > ** ** > > I do, however, think we have to be a bit careful about trying to boil the > ocean at the design summit. We probably aren't going to get everyone to > agree on an API for all L3-L7 network services in a three day span and > trying to do so might risk taking the focus off of vary practical things > that we need to do to make sure Quantum a scalable and production quality > system for those looking to take it into production during the Essex time > period (I know we have a set of customers in this class, and I'm guessing > others on this list do as well). **** > > ** ** > > I would propose a 3-phase summit approach for NetStack:**** > > - Phase 1: well-scoped / practical blueprints (e.g., API v1.1, improving > API auth, vmware/bridge plugins). **** > > - Phase 2: discuss general design of how we insert higher-level network > services. This will talk about how such services can interact with Quantum, > but does not attempt to design the service itself. Given the number of > different groups I expect to be working in this space in the coming months, > I definitely think we want to give the community a structure for how such > services should or should not be integrated. As I mentioned last week, I > will be putting together a blueprint on this and would welcome participation > by others. **** > > - Phase 3: discuss details (e.g., supported functionality, API) of specific > advanced network services. Probably the most likely candidates based on > discussions at the diablo summit are security policies/ACLs, L3 > functionality, and WAN-bridging/DC-interconnect. The expectation would be > that at the summit we at least come up with a basic framework for how these > services might integrate with Quantum (with respect to the phase 2 > discussion) and start to build a core group of people interested in working > on them during the Essex timeframe. **** > > ** ** > > What do others think about this approach? **** > > ** ** > > Dan**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Salvatore Orlando < > salvatore.orla...@eu.citrix.com> wrote:**** > > Hi Ram, **** > > **** > > Thanks for sharing your proposed sessions for the design summit.**** > > I think that for this summit we will not be creating blueprints and them > propose them for “sprint” as we did for Diablo, but we should rather propose > sessions on the summit.openstack.org/sessions.**** > > However, since we are going to have our own track, it will be good to hear > some organizational details from Thierry how many sessions we can fit in it. > **** > > **** > > All the elements in your list make perfect sense for me. However, I’m > afraid I do not understand very well what do you mean by “Hybrid Cloud > Service Framework”. Can you elaborate a bit more on this?**** > > **** > > I think your list is not very far from mine, and we can probably merge them > as follows:**** > > **** > > 1. L3 networking services (beyond IPAM) **** > > 2. Higher layer network services (L4/L7)**** > > 1. Firewall and Security Groups**** > > 2. Network Acceleration Services Insertion Framework > LB, Symmetric services – Acceleration services and so on**** > > 3. NAT**** > > 4. VPN Access**** > > 3. Quantum “Basic” Plugin**** > > 1. Linux Bridge**** > > 2. Solution supporting all hypervisor platforms including > ESX/Hyper-V**** > > 4. Hybrid Cloud Service Framework**** > > 5. Quantum API v1.1**** > > 1. Synchronous vs Asynchronous behaviour and concept of “Operational > Status”**** > > 2. Improvements such as Filtering, Rate Limiting, Resource Links, > pagination**** > > 6. Cloud Bridging APIs in Quantum**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Ram Durairaj (radurair) [mailto:radur...@cisco.com] > *Sent:* 19 September 2011 16:21 > *To:* Salvatore Orlando; netstack@lists.launchpad.net > *Cc:* Thierry Carrez > *Subject:* RE: [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq* > *** > > **** > > Hello Salvatore and all:**** > > **** > > We suppose to have a Netstack track…Its good to follow-up with Thierry to > group all the Net stack related blueprint and sessions in one track for all > the interested community participants to contribute and discuss.**** > > **** > > In addition to the list, here are few more items from our side:**** > > **** > > 1. L3 Service – As a service as Quantum**** > > 2. Hybrid Cloud Service Framework**** > > 3. Network Acceleration Services Insertion Framework (LB, Symmetric > services – Acceleration services and so on)**** > > 4. Quantum Asynchronous API mode**** > > 5. Quantum Security Groups support**** > > 6. Quantum “Basic Plugin (Linux bridge?)**** > > **** > > Few more services we are discussing internally and we will add them here. > **** > > **** > > Thanks**** > > > Ram**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* netstack-bounces+radurair=cisco....@lists.launchpad.net [mailto: > netstack-bounces+radurair=cisco....@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of > *Salvatore > Orlando > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 7:49 AM > *To:* netstack@lists.launchpad.net > *Subject:* [Netstack] Proposing sessions for Openstack design summitq**** > > **** > > Hello fellow NetStackers, **** > > **** > > The list of proposed session at http://summit.openstack.org/sessions is > filling up, and I think it is time we start proposing our own sessions as > well.**** > > **** > > Actually, there are already two accepted sessions for NetStack:**** > > **** > > 1. Donabe/API models: http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/29** > ** > > 2. Continuous integration planning: > http://summit.openstack.org/sessions/view/35**** > > **** > > On top of these two, I would also consider having the following sessions > (in order of importance):**** > > 1. Higher layer network services (L4/L7), e.g.: Firewall, NAT, VPN** > ** > > 2. Improved authorization framework for Quantum, with a full RBAC > model.**** > > 3. Quantum API v1.1**** > > a. Synchronous vs Asynchronous behaviour and concept of “Operational > Status”**** > > b. Improvements such as Filtering, Rate Limiting, Resource Links, > pagination**** > > 4. Cloud Bridging APIs in Quantum**** > > **** > > What’s your opinion?**** > > **** > > Cheers,**** > > Salvatore**** > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~netstack > Post to : netstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~netstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dan Wendlandt > Nicira Networks, Inc. > www.nicira.com | www.openvswitch.org > Sr. Product Manager > cell: 650-906-2650 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~**** > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dan Wendlandt Nicira Networks, Inc. www.nicira.com | www.openvswitch.org Sr. Product Manager cell: 650-906-2650 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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