You can see the CWDM mux listed on their site, and they will also make custom 
mux for you. 

Let me know if you need a Sales Contact for them.. 

My last set of muxes from them were custom muxes and they were able to get me a 
configuration with a lower insertion loss than what is listed on their website. 
( I paid a small premium for that feature, which I was very happy to). 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Colton Conor" <colton.co...@gmail.com>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "Luke Guillory"
> <lguill...@reservetele.com>, "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 7:14:53 PM
> Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

> Do you have any idea if fiberstore has one with both a monitor and 1310 
> wideband
> port? I would want both.
> Seeing as how they don't charge extra for an expansion port, but do for other
> special ports I am thinking of just using the expansion port.

> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
> wrote:

>>>>From the sounds of it, no one knows the real difference between the 
>>>>expansion
>> >>port, 1310 port, and 1550 port
>> Hmm.. not sure how you are reading this...
>> I believe that there is no 'standard' and as such the actual filter on the
>> mux/demux you are using may vary by mfg.
>> I can confirm what is an expansion port... (pass everything thru that is not
>> being filtered by the mux/demux )
>> I can also confirm that Fiberstore 1310nm port (not to be confused with the 
>> CWDM
>> 1310 port) will pass all 4 wavelengths for 40g/100g optics.
>> I don't have experience with the 1550nm port.

>>>>For real world applications, I would assume the monitor port would be to 
>>>>plug in
>>>>a handheld meter, and see which channels are coming through that node 
>>>>without
>> >>breaking the ring.

>> Correct that is what it is designed for..... it allows a fraction of light 
>> (I am
>> guessing would also cause an increase in insertion loss figure).

>>>> Not sure if their would be a monitor port for both directions is you were 
>>>> using
>> >> a OADM?
>> If you look at the OADM's e.g. like a Cisco CWDM OADM with monitor ports, you
>> will see that they are on both sides east & west.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Colton Conor" < colton.co...@gmail.com >
>>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>> Cc: "Mike Hammett" < na...@ics-il.net >, "Luke Guillory" <
>>> lguill...@reservetele.com >, "nanog list" < nanog@nanog.org >
>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 4:14:19 PM

>>> Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

>>> Thanks for the answers. From the sounds of it, no one knows the real 
>>> difference
>>> between the expansion port, 1310 port, and 1550 port. For real world
>>> applications, I would assume the monitor port would be to plug in a handheld
>>> meter, and see which channels are coming through that node without breaking 
>>> the
>>> ring. Not sure if their would be a monitor port for both directions is you 
>>> were
>>> using a OADM?

>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>> wrote:

>>>> Answers in-line ...

>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>>>> From: "Colton Conor" < colton.co...@gmail.com >
>>>>> To: "Mike Hammett" < na...@ics-il.net >
>>>>> Cc: "Luke Guillory" < lguill...@reservetele.com >, "nanog list" <
>>>>> nanog@nanog.org >, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net >
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:30:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

>>>>> I guess that is the real question. Besides the client ports that are 
>>>>> clearly
>>>>> identified by channel number on Muxes, what channels can the special ports
>>>>> handle?
>>>>> http://www.fs.com/products/43723.html It has 4 special service port 
>>>>> options:

>>>>> 1. Expansion Port (Based on what I am seeing, I think this would be to 
>>>>> stack
>>>>> another mux if you needed more channels. So I assume it allows all 
>>>>> channels to
>>>>> be added besides the client channels?)

>>>> Exactly... this is basically a pass thru port, i.e. what is not getting
>>>> mux/demux should get passed thru (keep the insertion loss in mind).

>>>>> 2. Monitor Port (I think this is just a tap that you would hook a monitor 
>>>>> up to,
>>>>> and be able to see all channels coming through with a meter. I assume not 
>>>>> a
>>>>> good idea to add/drop channels through this port)?

>>>> I don't use this port, but supposedly it will pass a fraction 5% of the 
>>>> light
>>>> from the main port so that it can be monitored. May be someone else can 
>>>> offer
>>>> some practical use for this port.

>>>>> 3. 1310nm Port (Labeled as 1310, but clearly allows more than just 1310 
>>>>> since
>>>>> tutorial is saying it supports QSFP+ which is 1270 - 1330 nm, so what 
>>>>> range
>>>>> does it really support or is there no a range?)

>>>> Not sure about the range question, but this is the port for having the 
>>>> 40g/100g
>>>> QSFP+ pass thru

>>>>> 4. 1550nm Port (Labeled as 1550nm, but I wonder if its like the 1330nm?)

>>>> I have not had the need to explore this in detail, but from my initial
>>>> understanding, this can be used for ZR (long range optics) and or to stack 
>>>> a
>>>> DWDM Mux

>>>>> Would you recommend a monitor port on every mux you buy?

>>>> As I shared above, I don't.

>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote:

>>>>>> Verify pass-through frequencies for the 1310 (or equivalent) for the 
>>>>>> passive mux
>>>>>> in question. This would only work for a single channel.

>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com

>>>>>> Midwest-IX
>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com

>>>>>> From: "Luke Guillory" < lguill...@reservetele.com >
>>>>>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net >, "Colton Conor" <
>>>>>> colton.co...@gmail.com >
>>>>>> Cc: "nanog list" < nanog@nanog.org >
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:13:10 PM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

>>>>>> Faisal,

>>>>>> How would he inject his current 4x10 40g into the mux which is currently 
>>>>>> on a
>>>>>> single LC cable?

>>>>>> Luke Guillory
>>>>>> Network Operations Manager

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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NANOG [mailto: nanog-boun...@nanog.org ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:02 PM
>>>>>> To: Colton Conor
>>>>>> Cc: nanog list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

>>>>>> Answers in-line below.

>>>>>> If you look at the CWDM Muxes (8 or 9 channel) you will notice a common
>>>>>> configuration of

>>>>>> Upgrade Port (expansion port) + 1450 or 1470 to 1610nm

>>>>>> in the DWDM muxes you will see them listed as # of Port + 1310 pass thru
>>>>>> channel.

>>>>>> These are exactly what you are looking for ..... :)

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