Be sure to let us all know how this works out for your business. On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:35 AM, J. Oquendo <joque...@e-fensive.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016, Naslund, Steve wrote: > > > You obviously have a much shorter Internet memory than some of the > engineers on here that have had a long history of killing off and > blacklisting various spam and malware operations over the years. I think > the one thing that has changed is that the service providers are now large > corporate entities that do not take going to war with each other as lightly > as we did back in the day. > > > > Steven Naslund > > Chicago IL > > It is this same attitude that throws everything into the > loop we are seeing: "Well Mega Corporation is allowing it > and we can't stop them lest we want to go to war with > them." Define war. What will they do if you de-peer? They > will find another provider to peer with it. That is it. > There is no "war" no one is coming to our offices in full > military gear. The more you guys allow this, the more it > will continue. > > Start de-peering companies similar to BGP Dampening. "Oh > didn't respond to our Nthousandth abuse. De-peered for N > amount of time. Increment the time, and when some of these > providers start seeing the cost of associating with these > types of crimes (spam, malware), they have a choice, ship > in or ship out. If ALL PROVIDERS did the same, who would > a dirty host have left to peer with? > > Any other answer is nonsense and an excuse... "This will > start a war!!!" Nonsense and quite possibly the sorriest > excuse I have read for lifting a finger. 100 more people > with the same response, means nothing will ever get done. > OTOH ... Let's go back to "OMG THIS HAS TO STOP BUT I AM > NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE LIFTING A FINGER!!! Because... > ERMAHGERD WAR" > > > > -- > =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ > J. Oquendo > SGFA, SGFE, C|EH, CNDA, CHFI, OSCP, CPT, RWSP, GREM > > "Where ignorance is our master, there is no possibility of > real peace" - Dalai Lama > > 0B23 595C F07C 6092 8AEB 074B FC83 7AF5 9D8A 4463 > https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFC837AF59D8A4463 >