On 7/28/16, 10:17 AM, "NANOG on behalf of J. Oquendo" <nanog-boun...@nanog.org 
on behalf of joque...@e-fensive.net> wrote:


>While many are chanting: #NetworkLivesMatter, I have yet
>to see, read, or hear about any network provider being
>the first to set precedence by either de-peering, or
>blocking traffic from Cloudflare. There is a lot of
>keyboard posturing: "I am mad and I am not going to take
>it anymore" hooplah but no one is lifting a finger to
>do anything other than regurgitate "I am mad... This is
>criminal."

(long discussion, was waiting for a place to jump in..)

If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn’t host the DDoS, they 
protect the website of seller of the product. We shouldn’t be de-peering Cloud 
Flare over sites they protect any more than we would de-peer GoDaddy over sites 
they host, some of which, no doubt, sell gray/black market/illegal 
items/services.

If, on the other hand,  you can find a specific network actually generating the 
volumes of DDoS, you should have a conversation about de-peering….

$0.02…






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