On most transactions, good reputable cisco partners are making about 3% on the 
front end.  Most good partners make their money off services, and they hire 
highly trained engineers to deliver projects.  Cisco hardware is like any other 
retail business, there is not deep margins.  So trying to get 38% off from CDW 
vs. taking 37% off from the hometown team you can trust, meet face to face 
with, talk to the "boss" if you need to......its just not worth it.  

This same thing holds true with network operators to some extent.  Some of the 
best businesses to goto for good support, colocation, transit, etc. Are you mid 
tier guys with highly clued staff and the need to deliver good service in order 
to stay competitive.

Brian

On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Adcock, Matt [HISNA] wrote:

> 
> That's very true.  They ship some out one door for Cisco and some out another 
> door for gray/black market.
> 
> One other thing to note - the discounts shown on the Web site previously 
> mentioned here are not that greater than the ones I know Cisco gives many 
> companies.  Is it really worth taking a chance with one of the most critical 
> parts of your infrastructure to save 10% or 15%.  In my industry (automotive) 
> and I think in many others the answer is absoutely not.
> 
> Matt
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> From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us]
> Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 6:20 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Cisco hardware question
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> 
> On 3/4/2010 16:16, Ricky Beam wrote:
>> 
>> Not necessarily.  I've seen a lot of boxes that appear to have come
>> "direct" from Cisco, however, I know they came from a wholesaler's
>> warehouse. (only one came direct from Cisco. from the factory in Malaysia.)
>> 
> 
> A lot of counterfeits come direct from the factory, too. ;)
> 
> ~Seth
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