On Mar 11, 2022, at 12:20 PM, John Levine <jo...@iecc.com> wrote:
> It appears that Joe Maimon <jmai...@jmaimon.com> said:
>> higher penetration of native v6, I would restate that a bit more
>> conservatively as
>> 
>> Google's statistics are likely a fair barometer for USA usage in the
>> large content provider arena which have a strong mobile representation.
> 
> AT&T, Comcast, and Charter/Spectrum, the three largest cable companies, have 
> IPv6
> support.

As do (so I hear) mobile providers, which is increasingly how people around the 
world get access to the Internet.

However, this discussion has drifted a bit — it wasn’t (supposed to be) a 
discussion about IPv6 deployment per se, but rather network operations reality 
as they impact IPv6 deployment.

There was an assertion (that I am not questioning) that there are various kit 
vendors who claim IPv6 support, but when network operators attempt to deploy 
that kit, the IPv6 support is found to be show-stoppingly buggy, lacking in 
required features, or otherwise causing said network operators 
frustration/irritation/etc and/or to give up on deploying IPv6 “until it is 
more mature” (or “more/any customers demand it”).

For whatever reason, there appears to be a reluctance to name names in such 
cases. My question was whether it might be helpful in encouraging IPv6 
deployment (or at least reducing the amount of disappointment) for network 
operators to be more public when reality does not match vendor claims, just as 
“timed full disclosure” has helped in addressing (some) security-related issues.

Regards,
-drc

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