On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:15 AM Abraham Y. Chen <ayc...@avinta.com> wrote:
> Dear Ca By: > > 1) It appears that you are reading the Google graph too optimistically, > or incorrectly. That is, the highest peaks of the graph are about 38%. The > average of the graph is about 36%. Citing "over 40%" from these is a gross > exaggeration. In fact, the peaks were reached on weekends and holidays due > to more residential usage, you can clearly see such by zooming into the > graph. In addition, the graph has been exhibiting an asymptomatic trend > ever since a few years back. The COVID-19 pushed this graph up a bit due to > the lock-down and work-from-home factors. Below was an analysis > pre-pandemic: > Sorry for being imprecise in my communication, the number is 46% in the USA. > > https://circleid.com/posts/20190529_digging_into_ipv6_traffic_to_google_is_28_percent_deployment_limit/ > > 2) Since Google is one of the stronger IPv6 promoters, usage of IPv6 > outside of the Google domain can only be lower, by simple logic deduction. > > Google’s number represents how many users reach it over ipv6. Given Google’s ubiquity in the usa, it is a fair barometer for the usa at large. This data is helpful for content providers estimating demand for ipv6 (46% of users will use ipv6 if it is available) and for the network operator community to understand where their peers sit. In summary, there is a lot of ipv6 on the usa internet today. Almost half for Google, per their published numbers. Over 75% end to end ipv6 on some large mobile networks. Hence my appeal to view published data. Reading anecdotal Nanog mails from a handful of folks concluding ipv6 has failed will not leave the passive impartial observer with an accurate view. Regards, > > > Abe (2022-03-11 10:11) > > > ------------------------------ > NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 12 > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 08:00:17 -0800 > From: Ca By <cb.li...@gmail.com> <cb.li...@gmail.com> > To: Saku Ytti <s...@ytti.fi> <s...@ytti.fi> > Cc: Joe Greco <jgr...@ns.sol.net> <jgr...@ns.sol.net>, nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: V6 still not supported (was Re: CC: s to Non List Members > (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 > NetBlock)) > Message-ID: > <cad6ajgtyqt-omq_kxxfe-sozwq3msj5gc_tkswdpjpi7mme...@mail.gmail.com> > <cad6ajgtyqt-omq_kxxfe-sozwq3msj5gc_tkswdpjpi7mme...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:56 PM Saku Ytti <s...@ytti.fi> <s...@ytti.fi> wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:00, Joe Greco <jgr...@ns.sol.net> > <jgr...@ns.sol.net> wrote: > > > I really never thought it'd be 2022 and my networks would be still > heavily v4. Mind boggling. > > Same. And if we don't voluntarily agree to do something to it, it'll > be the same in 2042, we fucked up and those who come after us pay the > price of the insane amount of work and cost dual stack causes. > > It is solvable, easily and cheaply, like most problems (energy, > climate), but not when so many poor leaders participate in decision > making. > > -- > ++ytti > > Ah, the quarterly ipv6 thread? where i remind you all? most of the USA is > on ipv6 (all your smartphone, many of your home router, a growing amount of > your clouds [i see you aws]) > https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ > > Google sees over 40% of their users on ipv6, with superior latency > https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_6390985030485347940_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >