A company doing what you describe is one I’d really love to work for.

May that philosophy of business be richly blessed.

..Allen

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:03, Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net> wrote:
> 
> Darin,
> 
> We charge a $300 one time install charge to cover our costs on the 1G service 
> (which can be paid out at $25/mo if you can't afford $300 all at once).
> 
> The area we serve is mainly lower and lower-middle-class income with an 80% 
> transient population.  Seven years ago, when "digital divide" and "digital 
> literacy" were the buzz words, we instituted our "free" 1G service in an 
> effort to level the playing field for the population who, otherwise, can't 
> afford internet at all, let alone at that speed.  Until recently we didn't 
> charge for residential service at any tier.  Rather than putting in "income 
> tiers", making people fill out applications for assistance, etc. we just made 
> it free for everyone.  We also provide free 100G service to the local school 
> district as well as free service to local government, police, fire stations 
> (Firemen (and women) had to pay for their own internet to use while they were 
> on duty before us), library, churches and other non-profits.
> 
> That's the why.  The how is that we control a LOT of fiber in the metro area 
> that is in use by a lot of very large providers that everyone's heard of.  We 
> make enough money doing that so we don't feel the need to charge the 
> residences for a basic level of service.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
>> On 12/26/2020 12:48 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>> Aaron,
>> 
>> One simple question. Why on earth would you offer free internet service? How 
>> and why? Your site show 1 Gig symmetrical for free when you should be a 
>> minimum of $65 per month to be competitive.
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 12:31 PM Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net 
>> <mailto:aa...@wholesaleinternet.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    We run MikroTik RB4011s for residential speeds between 1G and 10G
>>    or just supply a media converter.  For residential 40G and 100G we
>>    just drop in Arista or Extreme switches.  SMBs are normally just a
>>    media converter or direct fiber handoff.
>> 
>>    https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in
>>    <https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in>
>> 
>>    There are not a lot of options for good, off the shelf 10G CPE
>>    equipment.  The handful of 10G residential customers we have seem
>>    to be happy with the tik.  The couple that don’t use it have
>>    rolled their own solution.
>> 
>>    Like anything, I’m sure once the major home broadband providers
>>    start to catch up with us smaller guys the vendors will catch up
>>    as well.
>> 
>>    https://www.kcfiber.com/residential
>>    <https://www.kcfiber.com/residential>
>> 
>>    Aaron
>> 
>> 
>>>    On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org
>>>    <mailto:m...@beckman.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    
>>>>    i really don't get what the problem is. it's like they're being
>>>>    deliberately obtuse.
>>> 
>>>    Michael,
>>> 
>>>    If vendors saw a 10GbE CPE market, they would serve it. Obviously
>>>    they don’t see a market. Why don’t people insisting vendors build
>>>    their hobby horse see that? It’s like they’re being deliberately
>>>    obtuse :)
>>> 
>>>    -mel via cell
>>> 
>>>>    On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com
>>>>    <mailto:m...@mtcc.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>>>    On 12/26/20 8:00 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Anybody got a feel for what percent of the third-party gear
>>>>>    currently sold to
>>>>>    consumers has sane bufferbloat support in 2020, when we've
>>>>>    *known* that
>>>>>    de-bufferbloated gear is a viable differentiatior if marketed
>>>>>    right (consider the
>>>>>    percent of families that have at least one gamer who cares)?
>>>>> 
>>>>    I don't know percentages, but just trying to find cpe that
>>>>    support it in their specs is depressingly small. considering
>>>>    that they're all using linux and queuing discipline software is
>>>>    ages old, i really don't get what the problem is. it's like
>>>>    they're being deliberately obtuse. given all of the zoom'ing
>>>>    happening now you think that somebody would hit them with the
>>>>    clue-bat that this is a marketing opportunity.
>>>> 
>>>>    Mike
>>>> 
> 
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