A company doing what you describe is one I’d really love to work for. May that philosophy of business be richly blessed.
..Allen > On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:03, Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net> wrote: > > Darin, > > We charge a $300 one time install charge to cover our costs on the 1G service > (which can be paid out at $25/mo if you can't afford $300 all at once). > > The area we serve is mainly lower and lower-middle-class income with an 80% > transient population. Seven years ago, when "digital divide" and "digital > literacy" were the buzz words, we instituted our "free" 1G service in an > effort to level the playing field for the population who, otherwise, can't > afford internet at all, let alone at that speed. Until recently we didn't > charge for residential service at any tier. Rather than putting in "income > tiers", making people fill out applications for assistance, etc. we just made > it free for everyone. We also provide free 100G service to the local school > district as well as free service to local government, police, fire stations > (Firemen (and women) had to pay for their own internet to use while they were > on duty before us), library, churches and other non-profits. > > That's the why. The how is that we control a LOT of fiber in the metro area > that is in use by a lot of very large providers that everyone's heard of. We > make enough money doing that so we don't feel the need to charge the > residences for a basic level of service. > > Aaron > > >> On 12/26/2020 12:48 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: >> Aaron, >> >> One simple question. Why on earth would you offer free internet service? How >> and why? Your site show 1 Gig symmetrical for free when you should be a >> minimum of $65 per month to be competitive. >> >> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 12:31 PM Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net >> <mailto:aa...@wholesaleinternet.net>> wrote: >> >> We run MikroTik RB4011s for residential speeds between 1G and 10G >> or just supply a media converter. For residential 40G and 100G we >> just drop in Arista or Extreme switches. SMBs are normally just a >> media converter or direct fiber handoff. >> >> https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in >> <https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in> >> >> There are not a lot of options for good, off the shelf 10G CPE >> equipment. The handful of 10G residential customers we have seem >> to be happy with the tik. The couple that don’t use it have >> rolled their own solution. >> >> Like anything, I’m sure once the major home broadband providers >> start to catch up with us smaller guys the vendors will catch up >> as well. >> >> https://www.kcfiber.com/residential >> <https://www.kcfiber.com/residential> >> >> Aaron >> >> >>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org >>> <mailto:m...@beckman.org>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> i really don't get what the problem is. it's like they're being >>>> deliberately obtuse. >>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> If vendors saw a 10GbE CPE market, they would serve it. Obviously >>> they don’t see a market. Why don’t people insisting vendors build >>> their hobby horse see that? It’s like they’re being deliberately >>> obtuse :) >>> >>> -mel via cell >>> >>>> On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com >>>> <mailto:m...@mtcc.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 12/26/20 8:00 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Anybody got a feel for what percent of the third-party gear >>>>> currently sold to >>>>> consumers has sane bufferbloat support in 2020, when we've >>>>> *known* that >>>>> de-bufferbloated gear is a viable differentiatior if marketed >>>>> right (consider the >>>>> percent of families that have at least one gamer who cares)? >>>>> >>>> I don't know percentages, but just trying to find cpe that >>>> support it in their specs is depressingly small. considering >>>> that they're all using linux and queuing discipline software is >>>> ages old, i really don't get what the problem is. it's like >>>> they're being deliberately obtuse. given all of the zoom'ing >>>> happening now you think that somebody would hit them with the >>>> clue-bat that this is a marketing opportunity. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> > > -- > ================================================================ > Aaron Wendel > Chief Technical Officer > Wholesale Internet, Inc. (AS 32097) > (816)550-9030 > http://www.wholesaleinternet.com > ================================================================ >