Within the past year or two i’ve seen it occur.

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 18:44, Ben Cannon <b...@6by7.net> wrote:
> 
> “They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
> through it.”
> 
> Mike, I’d have agreed with you - 15 years ago. Is this current at all?  My 
> views on Cogent have evolved dramatically over the years.  How recent is your 
> data?
> 
> -Ben
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The argument has been listed numerous times so i didn’t want to bore people:
>> 
>> 1. Sprint peering battle. Google it
>> 2. He.net peering battle. Google it.
>> 3. Google IPv6 peering battle. Google it.
>> 
>> All of which point to them being pompous assholes.
>> 
>> They also run their links hot which create latency for anything flowing 
>> through it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 15:59, Stephen M. <stephen.mys...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Please don’t praise or complain like we’re supposed to take it at a total 
>>> face value. If you don’t like them so much - we are you’re audience. 
>>> Explain. 
>>> 
>>> If you like Cogent - explain.
>>> If you don’t like Cogent - explain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> //please pardon any brevities - sent from mobile//
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Whenever asked about Cogent, i just say, “Friends don’t let friends use 
>>>> Cogent.”
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve told two of their reps over the past two years that even if the 
>>>> service was free, i wouldn’t use it. And yet, they still call.
>>>> 
>>>> -Mike
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 13:53, Ronald F. Guilmette <r...@tristatelogic.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In message <e814e5f6-f386-4aae-bada-e423d299a...@delong.com>, 
>>>>>> Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given their practice of harvesting whois updates in order to spam newly
>>>>>> acquired AS contacts, any time it is my decision, Cogent is ineligible
>>>>>> as a vendor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I guess then that their aiding and abetting of fraud and IP block
>>>>> theft, as I documented here recently, is an entirely secondary concern...
>>>>> as long as they don't spam you, yes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> rfg

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