Hei hei, 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:51:54AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> But dumbing things down also causes problems.  People should learn
> some social graces.  Email is one of the basic forms of communication
> in our new electronic world.  I think this facade does them no favors.

This would mean to convince them willingly put time in understanding
mailing lists, choose a sophisticated MUA with reply to list feature
or check and probably change To/Cc in each and every mail. Good luck
with this. I stay with accepting there are dumb people (no offense)
and am happy if they use e-mail at all.

> 1. I will get a copy without the mailing list List-* headers.
>    + list-reply own't work reliably.
>    + Mail filing won't work reliably.

Improve your filing, this is not impossible.

> 2. If my site rejects their direct reply, such as it coming from a
>    dynamic IP address range, then I won't ever get either message.
>    The mailing list has no way to know that I did not get a direct reply.
>    The mailing list may have whitelisted them however.  I would
>    normally receive all mailing list messages because I will have
>    whitelisted the mailing list.

Dumb users will probably use some big mail provider without dynamic IP
addresses.

> 3. Most of them will simply have done a private reply anyway and won't
>    have included the mailing list.

Sure? I wouldn't bet.

> I dream of a world where MUAs did The Right Thing.  Like mutt! :-)

As long as we have M$ around and this new app developers ignoring RFCs
and standards, this will be a long lasting dream.

Greets
Alex

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the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all 
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