Alexander Dahl wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Agreed. However Mailman has an option that is often (ab)used. > > > > "Filter out duplicate messages to list members (if possible)" > > > > In which case if you are subscribed to the mailing list and someone > > posts to the mailing list and also either To: or Cc: your subscribed > > address then Mailman does not mail you a mailing list copy. Argh! I > > always uncheck that when I have control of a mailing list. But others > > tend to check it. > > We set this default yes (aka avoid) on all our mailing lists now.
And I always turn it off on every list I touch. > This is exactly the problem: if you have unexperienced or uninterested > users you want them to have an easy user interface. Teaching them to > hit reply if they want to answer just to the poster and reply to all > for answering all (aka the list) is difficult enough, But dumbing things down also causes problems. People should learn some social graces. Email is one of the basic forms of communication in our new electronic world. I think this facade does them no favors. But mostly because it means that: 1. I will get a copy without the mailing list List-* headers. + list-reply own't work reliably. + Mail filing won't work reliably. 2. If my site rejects their direct reply, such as it coming from a dynamic IP address range, then I won't ever get either message. The mailing list has no way to know that I did not get a direct reply. The mailing list may have whitelisted them however. I would normally receive all mailing list messages because I will have whitelisted the mailing list. 3. Most of them will simply have done a private reply anyway and won't have included the mailing list. 4. I am sure there are other reasons too. It is late for me and I can only say that it feels very wrong. > even though this does not break with the thing you do with mail to > multiple receivers without mailinglists. If you don't have the > "avoid box" checked in mailman those people get duplicate messages > and that's what you do not want, because this ends in discussions > about their MUAs and then you are screwed anyway. I dream of a world where MUAs did The Right Thing. Like mutt! :-) Bob
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