On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan <ptilopt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> * Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> [12-01-12 10:27]:
>> On 2012-12-01, Patrick Shanahan <ptilopt...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or
>>> from their web service,
>> 
>> Weird.  I posted to a Yahoo list two weeks ago by sending an e-mail
>> via GMail's SMTP server.  At the time I didn't even have a Yahoo
>> account. I have since created a Yahoo account so I could access the
>> download files area for one of the lists, but I still don't use it to
>> access the list.
>> 
>>> since last year some time.  I have dropped all but one group, but
>>> only read.  I refuse to use their web service.
>> 
>> It must vary by list.
>
> I am not explaining properly/sufficiently.  Yahoo *requires* your posting
> addr matches your smtp.

Ah, that's indeed quite different than what you wrote previously.
Requring that the From: address match up with the sending SMTP server
is not an unusual anti-spam measure.

> Mine does not and I will not open *more* spam floodgates.

All you need to do is to send the message via the GMail smtp server.
How does that "open more spam floodgates"?  I have mutt configured to
send mail via GMail's SMTP server when I'm using my GMail address, and
I don't think it's created any additional spam.

> I post via my isp using a gmail addr and my isp smtp.  It does not
> match yahoo's req's as the posting addr and smtp do not match.

In the past, I've found that causes problems with other destinations
as well.  I suspect it's comparing the From: address, the envelope
from, the SMTP sender, and the Return-Path: values.  If they don't
match up in certain ways, it's being tossed as likely spam/phishing. I
know my employer's MS Outlook server does that, though I don't
remember exactly which combinations have to match...

-- 
Grant



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