On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 13:14, lee<l...@yun.yagibdah.de> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0700, jacob certain wrote: >> So, I think I understand what you want: gmail. Yes, it's a web >> interface, with limited keyboard commands, but the whole >> basket/basement thing is implemented near exactly as you describe. I >> think you'd be pretty happy with it, though a specialised version for >> your own domain costs a bit more than mutt. > > That's interesting; I never tried gmail. An a webinterface isn't what > I want, but it means that I really have to try sup.
You should sign up just to see what it's like. Mutt is definitely not intended to be used the way you want to use it. You should definitely look into sup. I don't think you'll completely like it, but I think it does more of what you want than mutt. >> > Then why is it so fumbly? It's fumbly with local maildirs, but try it >> > with IMAP. If you don't enter all the folders you have on the IMAP >> > server into the configuration or something, it's horrible. And every >> > time you create a new IMAP folder or delete one, you'd have to edit >> > the config again ... No, that's wrong. Like I said, I've only defined my inbox, sent, and draft folders. I have at least twenty other folders made mandatory by the it department/exchange, plus several of my own folders that I regularly use. I copy/save/read mail in all of these without problem, and without specifically defining them. Granted, mutt still isn't exactly the interface you want with folders in the same view as messages, so yes, you do have to press c tab tab and select, or c =name-of-folder. > Well, I tried it with IMAP, and mutt kept asking me server and > password all the time and didn't display any folder list. I believe it should only prompt you for your password once. I, however, am too lazy for even that and keep my password in my muttrc. >> And, mutt + screen is beautiful. I run several instances of mutt, so >> I can quickly access my various common folders with a simple ctl-a >> ctl-[np]. > > ... and then you create a new folder or remove one or want to change > an option and have to exit all instances of mutt, edit the > configuration, restart all the instances and try to find where you > left them because mutt doesn't remember where you left. That's great. I haven't had this problem using imap. There aren't any local folders for me to muck with, and all instances of mutt happily update themselves without conflicting with each other. I regularly keep instances open for my inbox, sent items, and archive folder for quick and easy searching. > I very rarely used several instances, only when I needed to look up a > mail while I was writing one. I wished from the beginning that mutt > was able to continue to function while I'm writing a mail in an > external editor ... Yep, mutt just isn't designed to be a multi-paned app. You should write one. Maybe you'd only need an ncurses type wrapper for mutt, with an added bit of code for your categories. I think it'd be handy. But, I am not a programmer, and so I'm content with Mutt. Way better than Outlook or Thunderbird for plain old email. jake
