Hi,

* David T-G [05/16/02 18:03:06 CEST] wrote:
> ...and then Rocco Rutte said...

> ...

> % More correctly, he should be abled to use his ISP's relay
> % rather then relaying on his own, yes. I'm quite sure that

> Right.  So, having still not heard back from him(!!),

It doesn't match the subject anymore, but I hate mutt for not
syncing my mailboxes with the output from my $display_filter.
I look at your mail within mutt and see nothing special; so I
reply and suddenly see multiple exclamation marks (which were
shortened to 1 by $display_filter)... ;-) (just a side note)

> Unfortunately, if he is at a low-ball ISP that cuts services *and* that
> ISP happens to be on the DUL, then he probably has no option but to
> switch ISPs, since that's probably as cost-effective as finding someone
> who will let him relay.

Yes and no. Some freemail providers also offer POP-before-SMTP
which means that he has to find out how long his IP is cached.
For example, if this time limit is 15 minutes, just set up a
cron job which runs fetchmail every 10 minutes and point
postfix (or whatever) to the freemail provider's relay. It
will then always work if the internet connection works.

> Sometimes not even "low"; not only does Juno, for instance, not provide a
> relay, but neither does AOL (but we probably wouldn't want them to! :-)

I don't know any providers over at your location which doesn't
matter. But AOL users may send mail, too with the access
software (which is probably not pppd ;-) so I guess that
there's no need for a relay since dial-up users may be
authenticated by their line (and thus do not need any special
account).

Cheers, Rocco.

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