hello,
        thanks for your reply,

On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 10:38, Bernhard Praschinger wrote:
> Hallo
> 
> > i was wondering how i could determine the average bitrate. ??
> > ideally i would like program to tell me what it is.
> You can only answer that question after you have encoded and MultiPLEXed
> the stream with a audios stream.
> That that two most interrestin lines look like that:
>    INFO: [mplex] Average bit-rate :  4281600 bits/sec
>    INFO: [mplex] Peak bit-rate    :  7093200  bits/sec
> ---END---
> 

i have been using kino to encode and mplex my DV input.
i will start doing it from the command line in order to
access this info.  thanks


> 
> Programs like mplayer pint also out the maximal bitrate of the stream:
> VIDEO:  MPEG2  720x576  (aspect 2)  25.00 fps  7500.0 kbps (937.5
> kbyte/s)
> 

i have seen this, 7500 kbps is the default with kino when setup for dvd
output.  so my original attempt looked like this one, except for fps.

> But that does not tell you the average bitrate. But you can easly
> calculate the average bitrate:
> filesize / (number of frame / framerate) = bytes/sec *8 = bits/sec
> 
somehow i was getting off track , and will try again.

i am assuming if i dont select VBR in mpeg2enc ( -q flag)
then i am encoding in CBR, and my average bitrate = maximal bitrate.
?


> bits/sec is the value mplex prints out !!!!
> If you have a multiplexed stream you have to subtracts afterwards the
> bitrate used for audio and 1-2% mplex information. 
> 
this may have been where my calculations got off also.
mplayer says my audio is 224 kbit


> You should try it first with some shorter sequences (5-15 Minutes) with
> differnet settings. And view them, if you like the quality. 
> 

yes this is what i really need to do

> auf hoffentlich bald,
> 
> Berni the Chaos of Woodquarter


thanks again for taking the time with my simple question


randy



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