Maartin,

Your interest in dvgrab/ffmpeg as compared to mpeg2enc is similar to mine.
Comparing preprocessing tools (lavrec/dvgrab) in combination with
postprocessing tools (ffmpeg/mpeg2enc) may be too difficult to do as now it
seems all tools ultimately go thru a generic YUV phase and no input tool is
tied to the ouput. So possibly it would be reasonable to compare input
methods (lavrec/lvs) vs (dvgrab/kino) with each other OR compare encoders
(TMPGENC/ffmpeg/mpeg2enc).

Here are issues when comparing input methods:

ease of setup
size of immediate output files
cpu usage during aquisition
stability/range of hardware

And some encoding issues
:
Encoding time for given hardware
Size of resultant video/audio files
Quality (subjective) of resultant video/audio.
Control of the encoding

Which leads to what you are doing:
PVR (real time playback with delays and commercial detection)
Frame accurate editing and video effects
Burning streams DVD or VCD
Transcoding

One day someone may perform a comprehensive comparison. It's difficult
enough to compare a single aspect much less a combination.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Maarten de Boer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Mjpeg-users] VCD 2500vbr better quality than SVCD


> > I think for SVCD if the -K kvcd option and -q 8 (or 9) were used
> > the results would make a good SVCD video.   If the source has
> > noise then adding yuvdenoise with moderate settings (-l 1 or -l 2)
> > will work wonders.
>
> Hi,
>
> I am still trying different settings (but the process is rather slow,
> and I have to do it at home, where I can dedicate only limited time to
> it), but indeed -K kvcd improved a lot. I left out the -N option because
> I don't think my source material is that noisy, and I am not sure if it
> is really necesary to use the -l 1 for yuvdenoise. I have not tried to
> the new SVCD on my DVD player yet, so I can not say if it looks better
> than the VCD, but my impression (from watching with mplayer) is that it
> isn't...
>
> I notice some strange artefacts, that I noticed also in the VCD, when
playing
> with mplayer, but not when playing on the DVD+TV): blue "lightning": small
> blue lines that appear and disappear. A bit like when you put a aluminium
> cooted crisps bag in the microwave ;-) ... Any idea?
>
> Another question: Dan Dennedy mailed a script to the kino-dev mailing
> list to convert dvgrab output to mpeg2 (for DVD) using ffmpeg. Now, this
> might be a good moment to ask something I have on my mind for quite a
> while. What would be the main advantages/disadvantages between ffmpeg,
> mjpegtools (and mencoder)? (for this particular purpose, converting DV
> to mpeg2 for DVD/SVCD/VCD) ?
>
> Maarten
>
>
>
>
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