2010/12/10 Stuart VanZee <stua...@datalinesys.com>: > I would have to agree that the people of the United States have lost > some of their essential libertys. The problem has been in defining what > exactly ARE the essential libertys and then getting our congress and our > president to keep their mitts off of them. Still, I would argue that > even now there are few places in the world where the people can enjoy > liberty as freely as in the United States.
<cough> - the citizens of Baghdad and Teheran can vote their representatives; the citizens of Washington, DC can not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.#Federal_representation_and_ta xation - every us american citizen can be spied on or put away indefinitely without a court order just on the whim of the us president - every us citizen is free to be unable to pay for the most basic medical services </cough> Seems to be a very liberal und justified system indeed. And please don't tell the rest of the world what democracy is: Why did GWB become president? Best Martin PS: Bonus: The united nations general assembly routinely appeals to all states to follow international law. Two states have always voted against that petition: Israel and the USA. PPS: There is a consensus over the essential liberties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights