Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
David Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at
wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically
the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to
date. It might be easier to get working than Skype. Please note that
I've not tried to get it working on OpenBSD, I just thought this
might be of interest to the list.
Sure, there are alternatives, but the problem with them is that they
aren't that wide-spread like Skype. It's the same problem from which
Jabber suffers :(. Superior technology, but not spread enough.
I find this to be an interesting statement here. I hope I miss
understood it. So, you may run OpenBSD, I assume this as you are on
OpenBSD list, so your choice of OS is then based on it's merit for
security most likely, but at the same time, you kind of promote to use
buggy software and fell to justify it access to private data, etc that
it really have no business doing by the fact that it is widely use and
as such you can't run something else?
I find this very disturbing at best?
So, it's OK to run virus, bad software, compromise stuff because they
are in wide spread and alternative would at the moment less convenient
until others see the light as well and ditch it?
No wonder there is so many compromise computers and servers on the
Internet with attitude like that and that it is so hard to fight against
BLOB and required to get good quality and bug free software.
No intention to offend you in anyway really, that's not my point at all,
but honestly I don't get it!
The situation at large will only change if you make the choice knowing
to force it to change and simply do not accept it to start with.
SO, it's ok for anyone at Skype, partners and anyone that compromise
Skype software to have access to all your data, private informations,
motherboard BIOS, etc and know everything you did in the pass and
everything you will do in the future?
If that's really the point of convenience you make, may as well run
Windows and have no security setup, but let everything open, at a
minimum, you wouldn't pretend to try to be secure and protect your
privacy, but would knowingly make it public to anyone that care to see it.
Again, nothing personal to you or anything like that. It's not my
intention at all and if you take it as such, I sure apologies ahead of time.
My point is this attitude at large that we see way to often.
As long as this attitude stay and we do not say no to this kind of
practice, it will never stop and trying to built secure OS OpenBSD or
the like, and stop the BLOB is pointless unless users put their
integrity together and will use software, hardware and OS that are fit
together and respect the same goal.
If you run OpenBSD, then I assume may be wrongly, but you want security,
so stay in the path and reject anything else including hardware that
don't provide documentations and BLOB and software that you can't trust.
Pretending to do different is a liar.
Hope this provide something to think about.
Best,
Daniel
