-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >Not true. I have spoken my mind many times in-person and at work, to >managers and presidents. I have never been fired for anything I've >said because I don't attack people personally. I would gladly have a >discussion in real-life with anyone on this list. Only a fool or >someone as immature as you would actually get so defensive. Rational >people can disagree cannot they not? They can argue points without >breaking into a fist-fight, can't they? Maybe you don't understand >the difference between arguing a point and just arguing.
Uh, last time I checked he was accusing you of calling people names and acting like an asshole. That is a lot different that simply having a difference of opinion. And I would have to agree with him. You would get fired most places for talking the way a lot of people do on this list. This is all besides the point though. People are ignorant. People over react. This really needs not be discussed any further as neither side will change very much if at all. Let's drop this pointless babble and continue on with the help that the list was setup for in the first place. On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:58:59 -0700 Rick Barter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >dereck wrote: >>>Look, I don't 'act all tough on the net'. I just >>>refuse to sit idly >>>by while mamby pamby whiners are spouting crap. >>>And, in real life, >>>I'd say the same thing to him. >> >> On this I'll have to draw the line - that is plainly >> Bullshit. You would not say anything like this to his >> or her face, because you are a coward hiding behind >> your keyboard. In the "real world" no one would take >> what you dish on this list, and that is the plain >> fact. No company or government job would put up with >> it. We have to because it is a public list. But you >> are so full of it that it is painful to watch. You >> would not say these things and stay gainfully >> employed. > >Not true. I have spoken my mind many times in-person and at work, >to >managers and presidents. I have never been fired for anything >I've >said because I don't attack people personally. I would gladly >have a >discussion in real-life with anyone on this list. Only a fool or >someone as immature as you would actually get so defensive. >Rational >people can disagree cannot they not? They can argue points >without >breaking into a fist-fight, can't they? Maybe you don't >understand >the difference between arguing a point and just arguing. > >> You are driving people away from trying and using >> OBSD, and I (for one) hope that you are at least proud >> of yourself. This is the MISC list, for crissakes, >> and we should be more helpful to newbies. As a >> technical project, Linux is a mess; but it continues >> to grow not in small part to the esprit de corps that >> the users openly encourage. Newbie questions on Linux >> lists are not discouraged, and a "keep at it - it'll >> come" encouragement is not at all unusual. They are >> even proud of getting their grandmothers to use it! > >Never once during this thread have I advocated NOT helping new >people. > Please re-read my response to the original post. I have >never >once discouraged someone from participating on this list and have >helped whenever and wherever I can. > >> We, by contrast, have to put up with the "better than >> you" attitude from the vocal minority on this list >> which reminds one unpleasantly of Jerry Fallwell, >> Osama bin Liden, and other wacko religious crowds. > >> Put a sock in it, Rick. Almost everyone met your type >> in grade school. Small boys who pick fights with >> younger girls, or kick the neighbor's dog, are not >> uncommon. You are not "keeping it real," or "setting >> the story straight," or "protecting us from assholes." >> You ARE the asshole. > >Hahaha are you saying I'm a wacko, a terrorist? Why, because I >have >an opinion I feel strongly about, tried to make a point, and am >defending my assertions? This is what I'm talking about. The >world >is being conditioned such that if you argue with someone, you're >the >enemy. Grow up. Oh, and thanks for calling me an asshole. You >made >my day. > >> If you will stop "protecting us" maybe the user base >> will expand. [And yes, I'll be glad to answer >> questions and help - with money, time, and anything >> else.] > >Haha. Who cares if the user base expands. The OpenBSD team >doesn't. > Go read some documentation. They code this stuff for their own >pleasure/use. I happen to like the system and come along for the >ride. > >And if anyone wants to come to my house and discuss it over tea or > >coffee or anything let me know and I'll give you my address. > >rvb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkKp/fwACgkQSNwPY+UhpH+E/QCgmrow2QTEapio714bUuWUb4bJTagA nilM97xllwpEWiCjISELay1oStWP =DPKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger http://www.hushmail.com/services-messenger?l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: http://www.hushmail.com/about-affiliate?l=427
