Hello all,  I have to disagree with you. As a geologist / collector / hunter / 
scientist with around 23 years experience in recognize meteorites I can easily 
tell a type for example CC, it is quite easy texture differences between CC 
types like : chondrule size, matrix (vol%), chondrule 

(vol%), CAI's 

(vol%), metal 

(vol%). IF we spoke about CO type, it is pretty easy to say basis on chondrule 
size (CO is similar in chondrule size with CM, but CM have more matrix and 
slightly larger chondrules, that is in general, but 90% of collectors know 
differences between CM and CO on cut surface). That is based on cut surface, 
but whole specimens also look different, if we speak about NWA CO have 
characterised surfaces (especially if they are slightly sandblasted). We 
don't speak about classification, because no one writes NWA numbers. But 
commonly, recognizing a CO type is quite easy. I was working in science and 
that is completely don't harmful for science (harmful would be if someone 
would publish this in science paper, but that would not be possible because of 
reviews done before publishing).   If you can't tell that something is a 
meteorite without a test, well that is your private problem, but common, that 
is not a difficult.    All the best  Tomasz Jakubowski



        Dnia 23 lipca 2024 15:31 Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list 
<[email protected]> napisał(a):



         Educated guesses aren't classifications.  Nobody can do that.  
I've got close to a couple hundred pieces in my collection that I've 
built up over the past 25 years.  I own classes of meteorites that most museums 
don't even have because the museums that I got them from told me where the 
other pieces were.  I can safely say that I have handled and seen even more in 
that time.  The IMCA got started in my living room. I wouldn't even call 
something a meteorite unless it got tested.  As Anne Black recently said, 
people guessing what they have and presenting it as such is nothing but harmful 
for the science and commercial trade of these rocks and that woman has seen and 
handled stuff that I can only dream of.  On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM  <  
[email protected] > wrote:  Rhett,   Our North African meteorite 
family has earned the right to make educated guesses, especially after they 
have proven themselves to be reputable dealers AND have examined the specimen. 
They have handled far more meteorites than most dealers and collectors. There 
is no surprise that they, and Mohamed in particular, can tell the difference 
between a CO and another type of meteorite. Mohamed was fully transparent and 
clearly stated that it is unclassified. There is nothing inauthentic about the 
posting.   I have no ulterior motive in responding to this post other than 
desiring respectful discourse.   Sincerely,   Mendy   From:  Meteorite-list 
<  [email protected] >  On Behalf Of  Rhett 
Bourland via Meteorite-list  Sent:  Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:53 AM  To:  
Benzaki Mohamed <  [email protected] >  Cc:  Meteorite List < 
 [email protected] >  Subject:  Re: [meteorite-list] 
Meteorite unclassified   It's unclassified and yet you're calling it a 
CO?  That doesn't sound very authentic to me.   On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 10:17 
  AM Benzaki Mohamed via Meteorite-list <  
[email protected] > wrote: Hi all members hop have a good 
day.  Everyone interested will be interested by a largeste co carbonaceous 
unclassified please contacte  me.all beste.  
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