Apologies for all the typos! On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:07 PM Graham Ensor <[email protected]> wrote:
> just an addition...an example. > > Would people buy one of these Allende meteorites or similar from other > dealers pages which I think we are all pretty confident are Allende's...but > I'm pretty sure these were just fond in the same strewnfield and have not > been analysed to make sure. > > https://impactika.com/product/allende-carbonaceous/ > > Graham > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:46 PM Rhett Bourland <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Honestly, just because a meteorite is found in a known strewn field >> doesn't automatically make it part of the same fall. Twink Monrad found >> Golden Rule and Golden Mile in the Gold Basin strewn field. Calcalong >> Creek was originally sold as part of the Camel Donga strew field. NWA482 >> was originally thought to be a eucrite. The folks who go to Antarctica >> each year go back to the same areas to find more because of the way >> glaciers move. >> >> When talking about how not getting everything classified is bad for >> science, that isn't just about common material being sold as something much >> rarer. The real danger is rare and scientifically important pieces being >> sold as something more common. >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024, 10:22 AM Graham Ensor <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I see no problem in anybody saying a probable meteorite is unclassified >>> but is likely to be a certain type. It is no different on line or throught >>> the met list than traveling through Morocco or visiting a show, looking at >>> hundreds of unclassified probable meteorites, and discussing the likelyhood >>> of that or what type they may be with the seller. That's the way many >>> dealers work to find unusual types that then get taken further to be >>> officially classified. I see no fault with a NWA seller working in this >>> way. The The fault comes if buyer does not then get it analysed or >>> classified and tries to sell it on as an authentic classified meteorite. >>> There are also thousands of meteorites amongst the hundreds of collections >>> that came through NWA dealers from established large strewnfields which sit >>> there as examples of a variety of falls/finds and have never been cut and >>> classified. Just found as part of a new fall/find as it's impossible for >>> every piece to be classified....examples are Chelyabinsk, Ribbeck, Erg >>> Chech 002, Tissint, Holbrook,...the list is endless. I suspect very few >>> collections consist of specimens where each individual has been classified >>> and most have individuals of those I've mentioned (or others) that have >>> never seen a scientist. If you are new to meteorites or have very little >>> experience then this is probably not the avenue for you to buy for a >>> collection unless you are happy to go to the trouble of getting analysis >>> done. >>> >>> G >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 2:32 PM Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Educated guesses aren't classifications. Nobody can do that. I've got >>>> close to a couple hundred pieces in my collection that I've built up over >>>> the past 25 years. I own classes of meteorites that most museums don't >>>> even have because the museums that I got them from told me where the other >>>> pieces were. I can safely say that I have handled and seen even more in >>>> that time. The IMCA got started in my living room. I wouldn't even call >>>> something a meteorite unless it got tested. As Anne Black recently said, >>>> people guessing what they have and presenting it as such is nothing but >>>> harmful for the science and commercial trade of these rocks and that woman >>>> has seen and handled stuff that I can only dream of. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 3:37 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Rhett, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Our North African meteorite family has earned the right to make >>>>> educated guesses, especially after they have proven themselves to be >>>>> reputable dealers AND have examined the specimen. They have handled far >>>>> more meteorites than most dealers and collectors. There is no surprise >>>>> that >>>>> they, and Mohamed in particular, can tell the difference between a CO and >>>>> another type of meteorite. Mohamed was fully transparent and clearly >>>>> stated >>>>> that it is unclassified. There is nothing inauthentic about the posting. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have no ulterior motive in responding to this post other than >>>>> desiring respectful discourse. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mendy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Meteorite-list <[email protected]> *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Rhett Bourland via Meteorite-list >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 9:53 AM >>>>> *To:* Benzaki Mohamed <[email protected]> >>>>> *Cc:* Meteorite List <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite unclassified >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's unclassified and yet you're calling it a CO? That doesn't sound >>>>> very authentic to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 10:17 AM Benzaki Mohamed via Meteorite-list < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all members hop have a good day. >>>>> >>>>> Everyone interested will be interested by a largeste co carbonaceous >>>>> unclassified please contacte me.all beste. >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>>> >>>
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