seriously?
Do you really think they CARE what an RFC says when they are shutting the
blacklist down.
Get real peoples.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 4:57 AM Bill Cole via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> On 2025-03-07 at 12:58:28 UTC-0500 (Fri, 7 Mar 2025 18:58:28 +0100)
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop <uh...@fantomas.sk>
> is rumored to have said:
>
> >> On 2025-03-07 at 06:04:25 UTC-0500 (Fri, 7 Mar 2025 12:04:25 +0100)
> >> Thomas Walter via mailop <b...@fh-muenster.de>
> >> is rumored to have said:
> >>
> >>> AFTER they
> >>> did contact all the abuse contacts of networks still using it?
> >
> > On 07.03.25 12:21, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
> >> That definitely DID NOT HAPPEN, because it is intrinsically
> >> impossible.
> >
> > Why do you think that
>
> The word "all" has a meaning.
>
> As someone who receives abuse contact mail for multiple RIR-allocated
> blocks, I am absolutely sure that no such contact was made.  It also did
> not land in abuse@ for ANY domain of mine, although those are not
> registered, just standard.
>
> I am also quite certain that many registered abuse contacts are email
> black holes through which no one can possibly be contacted.
>
> > Just in my previous e-mail I have reported that I found 5 mails in our
> > ticketing system from 3 weeks ago related to hosts still using their
> > DNSBL.
> >
> > So they definitely did contact some abuse contact.
>
> The meanings of the words "some" and "all" are quite different.
>
> FWIW, I think there's been no valid excuse for "list the world" tactics
> for any DNSBL which has existed as long as NixSpam since the publication
> of RFC6471. It is a "MUST NOT" behavior. They are still not doing what
> the RFC recommends, *which it recommends for good reasons.* It is
> surprising that they have not properly stubbed out the zone with a
> delegation to TEST-NET, since they have 2 different options for where
> they cauterize the zone: ix or dnsbl.
>
> I guess the world just needs another prominent rude and sloppy DNSBL
> decommissioning once a decade to remind everyone that a right way
> exists.
>
>
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