On 2025-03-07 at 12:58:28 UTC-0500 (Fri, 7 Mar 2025 18:58:28 +0100)
Matus UHLAR - fantomas via mailop <uh...@fantomas.sk>
is rumored to have said:
On 2025-03-07 at 06:04:25 UTC-0500 (Fri, 7 Mar 2025 12:04:25 +0100)
Thomas Walter via mailop <b...@fh-muenster.de>
is rumored to have said:
AFTER they
did contact all the abuse contacts of networks still using it?
On 07.03.25 12:21, Bill Cole via mailop wrote:
That definitely DID NOT HAPPEN, because it is intrinsically
impossible.
Why do you think that
The word "all" has a meaning.
As someone who receives abuse contact mail for multiple RIR-allocated
blocks, I am absolutely sure that no such contact was made. It also did
not land in abuse@ for ANY domain of mine, although those are not
registered, just standard.
I am also quite certain that many registered abuse contacts are email
black holes through which no one can possibly be contacted.
Just in my previous e-mail I have reported that I found 5 mails in our
ticketing system from 3 weeks ago related to hosts still using their
DNSBL.
So they definitely did contact some abuse contact.
The meanings of the words "some" and "all" are quite different.
FWIW, I think there's been no valid excuse for "list the world" tactics
for any DNSBL which has existed as long as NixSpam since the publication
of RFC6471. It is a "MUST NOT" behavior. They are still not doing what
the RFC recommends, *which it recommends for good reasons.* It is
surprising that they have not properly stubbed out the zone with a
delegation to TEST-NET, since they have 2 different options for where
they cauterize the zone: ix or dnsbl.
I guess the world just needs another prominent rude and sloppy DNSBL
decommissioning once a decade to remind everyone that a right way
exists.
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