On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 4:53 PM Matt Corallo via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > > Has SpamCop been integrated into the Talos Intelligence handling flow yet? > Talos has historically > been one of those "we label everything as bad with a quarter of a braincell > so we can tell clients > we've blocked a million billionty attacks for them and they should pay us > more" operations, I > imagine SpamCop can only get worse (somehow) with Talos at the helm...
Y'all are acting like something new or different started happening here. Cisco has owned Spamcop since 2007. Don't be fooled by the hand coded HTML look, it's been corporate owned since 2003. Spamcop's BL has always been too binary, if you're worried about accepting legit mail from large providers who also emit some non-zero amount of unwanted mail. Block the whole IP or don't, there's no other option. It's a reputation model defined back in the late 90s (you know, back when some of us first got involved in that whole spam fighting and email blocking thing) and as we see here, it has limitations. It's probably a big part of why, for example, Gmail (and other smart folks) cares so much about domain reputation today -- it makes it easier to identify reputation at a level deeper than just the sending IP address. If you're going to use the Spamcop BL for blocking, it's never NOT going to work this way. Today the complaint is Microsoft, tomorrow it will be somebody else. Cheers, Al Iverson -- Al Iverson // 312-725-0130 // Chicago http://www.spamresource.com // Deliverability http://www.aliverson.com // All about me https://xnnd.com/calendar // Book my calendar _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
