On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Warren Volz via mailop wrote:


On 06/30/2020 8:10 am, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote:

      JMRP may not be dead, but I have haven't received anything from it in at 
least 8 months.  That's just as far
      back as my "abuse" inbox goes. I don't actually know when we last 
received something from JMRP.  I believe you
      that it still works for you, but apparently it doesn't work for some of 
us.  I used to get them fairly
      routinely when people sent out their soccer club announcements and church 
newsletters and such (I presume
      someone felt it easier to click the "report as spam" button than to 
unsubscribe from the church newsletter).
       I'm sure those folk are still sending their newsletters, and I know we 
still sometimes have a problem with a
      breached email account, but I don't get the JMRP messages anymore.

      Meanwhile I'm still getting the S3150.  As of today it's been 8 days.  
The response to my support ticket was
      that our IP address was not eligible for mitigation.....and I'm not even 
sure what that means.  I reviewed
      logs and account statistics over this time period and I'm confident 
there's been no further spamming activity.
       The last trouble was the one user on 6/22 who got phished and sent up to 
his daily limit of 200 messages.

      I'd like to remain patient, but I'm starting to feel that this response 
is disproportionate to the original
      issue.

Adam,

I just want to say that I feel your pain. We had a hacked account send >1k in 
messages to the MSFT infrastructure before
it was disabled. As of now, I'm going back and forth with the support team to 
try and get our server removed from the
block list.

-Warren




We had the same thing happen as well. I had to route a number of hotmail and affilliated domains out via a seperate server until the block was eventually removed.

What made the whole process so frustrating was the lack of communication with MSFT. No idea when the block would be removed, no actual data from them showing the problem, just we can't help you and please go away now.

A lot of small providers are doing their level best to be good netizens by implenting new email protocols, setting up tools to process dmarc and feedback loops, implementing dkim, spf, and dmarc for not just their domain but for all of their customer domains. If you don't get it completely correct and keep it that way they could give a fat finger to assist you. They send your email to junk because your not large enough to matter and finding someone to assist you usually has to be done via the mailop or nanog list because their front line tech support isn't geared to help you.

It is just so frustrating!

 -Ted
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