On 10 Jun 2016, at 11:23, Laura Atkins wrote:

In this case, having read the documents and followed the public discussions, there’s no real clear benefit. There is also a lot of expense. So that’s a problem. The benefits need to be better articulated by the people who want to make the change.

Yes, indeed: this unicorn's horn is inadequately polished.

More directly: I don't think any "One Click Unsubscribe" can be a net benefit for the parties who would need to do the most work to implement and deploy it. As someone whose job security is improved by the proliferation of arcane external/interop email failure modes, I'm not saying that out of self-interest.

Also in this case, there is a significant chance that the proposal will result in sub-optimal or harmful results. It is a fact that there are appliances and filters out there that follow every link in an email. Implementing a protocol where a link being followed means a user is unsubscribed immediately will result in people being unsubscribed. I understand this proposal makes whatever is automatically clicking the link append a magic token to the URL, in an effort to stop this. I think that makes the proposal overly complex and fragile.

Exactly. If a well-intentioned, prudent, and wise organization implements a protocol into being an opaque "Just Do What I Want" button in a way that behaves as the protocol envisions, there will be malicious, reckless, and/or stupid entities deploying implementations that behave badly and/or facilitate malicious use within days.

The result is that by hiding a complex protocol behind the face of a "one-click" unsubscribe button, you create a whole new collection of subtle and obscure ways that various implementations can quietly and rarely operate incorrectly. Unsubs that should not occur WILL. Unsubs that should occur WILL NOT. Users will expect their personal and workplace mail systems to give them identical experiences of the new protocol, which mostly WILL NOT happen.


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