> Dear Comrade Vivek, > >> >> Maybe you should write to RMS at rms AT gnu DOT org and tell him he is >> wrong with valid reasons if you have any. >> >
> I have mailed him few times earlier and once spoke to him directly; however > not on this subject. Only his intolerance to different views were revealed. > Dearest Free Software Movement Comrade (and only the Free Software Movement Comrade), RMS being intolerant is something that is news to me, anyways I don't believe what you say unless RMS is also present in an open discussion where you can prove RMS was intolerant and also ignorant on things you have accused him of here in this list. One way to do that is to open an e-mail conversation with RMS and add this list to the cc so that souls like us can listen to RMS and his views on whatever topic you have accused him of being intolerant and ignorant (and then shamelessly addressing him as Shri Richard Stallman in your communist propaganda blog). You refusal and escapism to do that in-spite of my repeated requests leaves me to suspect your integrity and the relevance of continuing this discussion. Anyways as if by providence, let me take upon myself this duty of 'Debunking Communist Propaganda on Free Software' as a moral good I should do to the society at large and this list in particular. > >> It is not making fool by mentioning a word in nations name. The socialist > social order was there in USSR, however there was buerocratic centralisation > of power which finally led to its collapse. > There was no socialism anytime practiced in the USSR only Bourgeoisie Communist Dictatorship. (Which RMS has very _decently_ called _Russian_Communism_ on http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ). USSR began with Communism and ended with Communism, no socalism was ever achieved there, in spite of the Communist False Propoganda that Communism was a transition to an Utopia called Socialism. References:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_communism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_Communist_party_rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes India on the other hand is a Sovereign, Socialist, Secular, Democratic, Republic. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_India Nehruvian Socialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawaharlal_Nehru#Economic_policies My argument is that Socialism in any form cannot exist without Democracy and Secularism. > A software distribution / development model does not qualify to compare > with the whole of a social order > You are completely wrong here. The Free Software Movement (and the Free Culture Movement) is a grass root level social and political movement and an attempt to create a new social order, it is not just a software development model alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_culture_movement > >> This Russian Communist Global Invasion Policies can be compared to the >> predatory business practices of Proprietary Companies that do secret >> agreements (Cross Patenting Agreements) like Communist Russia and Nazi >> Germany did before Russia invaded other smaller Countries. and then use >> these agreements often on Patents to attack other Software Companies or FOSS >> Developers. >> > It is a one sided view. Comparison is also void. > Why is this a one sided view ? Why is the comparison void ? The statement does not become void because you say so , prove to me and others in this list using reason and also rationally why this view is one sided and the comparison is also void. Meanwhile please read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact and then you should see this Secret relic created by Communist Russia with Nazi Germany (The Molotov Ribbentrop Pact) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tajny_protoko%C5%82_23.08.jpg Cross Licensing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-licensing Another Solidarity effort to commemorate ill effects of the _Stalin_Model_of_Russian_Communism_ (err Socialism..) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Day_of_Remembrance_for_Victims_of_Stalinism_and_Nazism Other interesting links, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_on_Crimes_of_Communism > >> From my above points I don't think this is a hypothetical argument at all. >> I won't talk on behalf >> of RMS, you can mail and ask him and add this list to the cc if you wish. >> > >> Maybe you should Email him and tell him that his understanding of >> communism is weak. I am sure he will have some rational counter arguments to >> make for this choices. >> > > If I follow with your style, from my experience, surely I might have said > that RMS practices a dictatorship on free software philosophy for at least > based on his stand on why FSF should not be a democratic body. > > - > I don't follow any style, I speak what should be spoken, if it has a style it is your personal opinion. Dear Free Software Comrade, when has RMS said that FSF should not be a democratic body ? You are going on Mud Slinging RMS on this list without him knowing this and using his name in your blog for your false propaganda. What a shame!!!! err....., btw, do Communism and Democracy go hand in hand ? 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