On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Siju George <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Anoop Alias <[email protected]> > wrote: > > If at all things were that simple :) > > > > make install clean ..doesnt often work well as the super cow powered > apt-get > > does..( I have experiance on rehat/debian/freebsd and its easier to fix > > somthing on debian > redhat > freebsd) > > > > again and again you are speaking from a limited experience I guess. > You say about "some thing". It is just the opposite for "some other thing" > again it depends on the mindset. > If you don't have an open mind set the first > system/technique/environment you learned can be a hindrance to later. > That necessariliy is not a problem of the later rather the induvidual. > who are you man ..the all knowing ..almighty God? . well if things have worked the best for you ;I must say you have limited experience. doing just ls on a bSD distro dont make you a pro and that may have always worked perfect :) can you tell me a decent alternative for free ( i found freecolor after a long search ) . bsdsar is crippled ;sar works a lot better . alternative for ps aux --forest ( pstree dont look that good ) . > > > also systems like Debian (I admit we are tied to certain versions;but who > > wants cutting edge on a production system ) gets things done more > elegantly > > with less user interaction ;) . > > > > such as? > You tell me the particulars and I can point to others if you don't know > > Again i see you have limited experience . If not you would have known what i meant. > > > > Also security wise - i think all systems as vulnerable ;its how we tie > the > > holes up that matters ; where is selinux in bsd kernel ? . we have > iptables > > for ipfw .Also gnU has better user base ;so more the eyeballs..lesser the > > bugs. > > > > This is the most stupidest thing I ever heard! > I wonder this comes from the mouth of a sysadmin. > really ..educate me > > "so more the eyeballs..lesser the bugs" > > good to hear, but not always because the eyes should be alert. > Let us put this to test. > > http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1 > > go there and see how many bugs linux had to fix just because of lousy > programming? > I can give examples but i have reserved for a separate thread for itself. > I would adress all these issues one by one. > > to give a perfect example just for now > > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212 > http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 > > This stuff was taken from the OpenBSD project and brought under the > many eyes of GNU developers? > > Frankly I use Debian/Ubuntu witha sense of fear now though I like apt > and friends > > > > > As I said BSD is good ;but its not the best .we buy a car to drive and > not > > to repair it everyday..thinking in that sense ..debian is much better > than > > *BSD > > > > just because og apt I guess > > have you heard of pkgin? It does the same in BSD same flags too as apt > mostly. > > That question itself tells that tool is used only by a few?.whats the reason dude.Why is it not popular like apt-get . Posting some links ;etc doesnt make you a big-daddy of everything. As i told i am not against *BSD. I just said it is easier to administer Debian than BSD . Maybe its my personal choice ; but that doesnt make me ignorant and you all-knowing apt-get install anarchism :) > --Siju > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > -- Anoop P Alias (PGP Key ID : 0x014F9953) GNU system administrator http://GnuSys.net
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