Zoey, once the computer is running either in Mac or Windows, you can select the other OS from one of the utilities in MAC and also in Windows, then reboot. The computer will then reboot into the desired OS - that's how alot of people get around the problem of having no speech at boot time. The only other option is to memorize the order of icons on the boot screen, and then press the arrow keys the needed number of times to select the desired OS icon, then press enter. Once you know the order of icons, I guess that method would work fine, but I always select the OS from within Windows bootcamp utility, or from within MAC system preferences, then reboot.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no screen reader can possibly be loaded.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:

hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add it
on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. Apple would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult to
impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager,
letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:

Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I
said
the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does
the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to
go
especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the program. The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't state
the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Parsons" <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part
of
your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation
(i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion).

I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is
inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are just
passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at
least
mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I
was
told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that
there
was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by
default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form though
so
I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those
accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because
of
course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not
accessible.

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