ok thanks will try the local way if i decide on the bootcamp but honestly it looks like the fusion is the better way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
It is not a problem, we have all been there. With bootcamp, the drive is partitioned; with Fusion, it is not. I don't know why Apple charges that much - any halfway decent computer geek can partition a drive in two minutes. If you decide to go bootcamp, I'd just enlist the help of some local talent to get things up and running. You said you are near an Apple store - I bet they would help for free (no promises, but its worth a try). On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote: > Oh ok got it now. One more question that I thought of and please accept > my > appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them > scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions > as they come. Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be > partitioned but with fusion it would not? Apple said for the partitioning > of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half > to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down > the line? I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion? > Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM > Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel > > > No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. > Jaws > can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a > computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no > screen reader can possibly be loaded. > On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote: > >> hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add >> it >> on for me? Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and >> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM >> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >> >> >> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. >> Apple >> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult >> to >> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot >> Manager, >> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine. >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote: >> >>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws. As I >>> said >>> the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion >>> does >>> the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way >>> to >>> go >>> especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the >>> program. >>> The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't >>> state >>> the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure >>> voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically? >>> Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me >>> navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nicholas Parsons" <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel >>> >>> >>> Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part >>> of >>> your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation >>> (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion). >>> >>> I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is >>> inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are >>> just >>> passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at >>> least >>> mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I >>> was >>> told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that >>> there >>> was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by >>> default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form >>> though >>> so >>> I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those >>> accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because >>> of >>> course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not >>> accessible. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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