No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws 
can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a 
computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no 
screen reader can possibly be loaded.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:

> hmmmm refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add it 
> on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and 
> jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
> 
> 
> Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet. Apple 
> would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult to 
> impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager, 
> letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I 
>> said
>> the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does
>> the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to 
>> go
>> especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the program.
>> The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't state
>> the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
>> voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
>> Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
>> navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Nicholas Parsons" <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part 
>> of
>> your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation
>> (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion).
>> 
>> I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is
>> inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are just
>> passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at 
>> least
>> mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I 
>> was
>> told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that 
>> there
>> was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by
>> default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form though 
>> so
>> I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those
>> accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because 
>> of
>> course no one tests the thing anymore because they are told it's not
>> accessible.
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