hi recardo.
To be really honest i have mixxed feelings about it. I know that 5
minute and apple could fix it, on the other hand. There are maybe
other areas that like you said would need more attention.
And on that note, time too read a really totally awesome book, das boot,


sandi


On 4/19/13, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lol,
>
> I'm not frustrated at all.  I just wanted to no your point of view.  Thank
> you very much for sharing.  Thats why I deliberately pointed out that this
> might  be a bigger problem for those who are using the new voices in a
> native language that happens not to be english.  I think in regards to
> education, I'm just as cold and as clinical as anyone.  And of course, I'm
> 100% behind speaking up to get problems you feel are important taken care of
> to help further ones education.  My original post was just wrote to
> understand the level of importance you were giving to this particular bug.
> Because, I didn't see the importance at first.  Now, I see where your coming
> from.
>
> Thanks. :)
>
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hi Ricardo, sure the mac have come a long way in 2 years. And do i
>> think it is an issue? well i doubt i would waste time pressing keys if
>> i did not think so, about computers, and education, i am a totally
>> clinically and cold girl.
>> If  you are living in norway you might have  that issue as well. But
>> else yes you are right you can do as the most might have done just
>> used fred and alex for a none-english language, and train your brain
>> too understand that :)
>> I honestly dont care much for what we might have done 2 years ago, it
>> is about 24 months back, it  is basically the same going to look at
>> the 2011 peugeot ion, when we indeed write 2013.
>> you give pound-sign 30000 for both cars, but i will assure you that
>> the electric car from 2013 is better equipped. I got the most of my
>> sight back and i will absolutely assure you that with out the danish
>> Norwegian and sweetish voices on the mac my education as a nurse would
>> never have been an option. Not with jaws anyways, it would simply have
>> been too costly for me. Jaws, books etc. nope i would not have been
>> able too do it do to the high price-tack on both books, and jaws. im
>> the other fella not rocker fella smiles...
>> Ricardo, it is not that i cant see your frustration, i can, but we all
>> are on about different things :)
>>
>>
>>
>> best
>> sandi
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/13, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> lol,
>>>
>>> So,  you feel that this issue would have a meaningful impact on the
>>> education of a large number of kids who might be using a Mac?  After
>>> all,
>>> unless they are speaking a language not english of course, they could
>>> use
>>> Alex where the problem doesn't seem to exist.  Keep in mind, 2 years
>>> ago,
>>> this is what they would have been doing regardless?
>>>
>>> To be clear, I'm not saying the new voices don't need work.  But
>>> honestly, I
>>> would put that pretty low  on the list of accessibility issues I'd like
>>> to
>>> see addressed.  For example, I think accessibility on Safari could be
>>> tightened up a bit.  I would love to not to be bounced out the html area
>>> into the toolbar 50% of the time I click on a link.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents. :)
>>>
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi Anne, i dunno but after you have mailed apple accessibility a few
>>>> times without getting a answer you tend too roll your own.
>>>> I am sure i am not the only one who have mailed A A , about the
>>>> problem with the newer voices, but they may not be sure how too
>>>> address it.
>>>> I wont say i know of a easy fix for it either, but if we keep having
>>>> this kind of problems how can we expect too have macs used in the
>>>> school for say, kids?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> sandi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/18/13, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I tried this, and I'm only getting a pitch-change with Alex. It
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> say
>>>>> "cap" or "capital".
>>>>>
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Nicholas Parsons
>>>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Anne,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem isn't that the pitch doesn't change. The pitch does
>>>>>> change.
>>>>>> The problem is that in addition to the pitch changing VoiceOver still
>>>>>> says
>>>>>> the word "capital" before the letter. PERHAPS THE BEST EXAMPLE IS FOR
>>>>>> YOU
>>>>>> TO READ SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS SUCH AS THIS SENTENCE BY CHARACTER.
>>>>>> YOU'LL
>>>>>> SEE THAT VOICEOVER SAYS THE WORD CAPITAL BEFORE EACH LETTER AS WELL
>>>>>> AS
>>>>>> CHANGING PITCH WHICH MAKES IT VERY TIME CONSUMING TO SPELL A WORD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nic
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