Lol, I'm not frustrated at all. I just wanted to no your point of view. Thank you very much for sharing. Thats why I deliberately pointed out that this might be a bigger problem for those who are using the new voices in a native language that happens not to be english. I think in regards to education, I'm just as cold and as clinical as anyone. And of course, I'm 100% behind speaking up to get problems you feel are important taken care of to help further ones education. My original post was just wrote to understand the level of importance you were giving to this particular bug. Because, I didn't see the importance at first. Now, I see where your coming from.
Thanks. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi Ricardo, sure the mac have come a long way in 2 years. And do i > think it is an issue? well i doubt i would waste time pressing keys if > i did not think so, about computers, and education, i am a totally > clinically and cold girl. > If you are living in norway you might have that issue as well. But > else yes you are right you can do as the most might have done just > used fred and alex for a none-english language, and train your brain > too understand that :) > I honestly dont care much for what we might have done 2 years ago, it > is about 24 months back, it is basically the same going to look at > the 2011 peugeot ion, when we indeed write 2013. > you give pound-sign 30000 for both cars, but i will assure you that > the electric car from 2013 is better equipped. I got the most of my > sight back and i will absolutely assure you that with out the danish > Norwegian and sweetish voices on the mac my education as a nurse would > never have been an option. Not with jaws anyways, it would simply have > been too costly for me. Jaws, books etc. nope i would not have been > able too do it do to the high price-tack on both books, and jaws. im > the other fella not rocker fella smiles... > Ricardo, it is not that i cant see your frustration, i can, but we all > are on about different things :) > > > > best > sandi > > > On 4/19/13, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> lol, >> >> So, you feel that this issue would have a meaningful impact on the >> education of a large number of kids who might be using a Mac? After all, >> unless they are speaking a language not english of course, they could use >> Alex where the problem doesn't seem to exist. Keep in mind, 2 years ago, >> this is what they would have been doing regardless? >> >> To be clear, I'm not saying the new voices don't need work. But honestly, I >> would put that pretty low on the list of accessibility issues I'd like to >> see addressed. For example, I think accessibility on Safari could be >> tightened up a bit. I would love to not to be bounced out the html area >> into the toolbar 50% of the time I click on a link. >> >> Just my 2 cents. :) >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> hi Anne, i dunno but after you have mailed apple accessibility a few >>> times without getting a answer you tend too roll your own. >>> I am sure i am not the only one who have mailed A A , about the >>> problem with the newer voices, but they may not be sure how too >>> address it. >>> I wont say i know of a easy fix for it either, but if we keep having >>> this kind of problems how can we expect too have macs used in the >>> school for say, kids? >>> >>> >>> best >>> sandi >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/13, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I tried this, and I'm only getting a pitch-change with Alex. It doesn't >>>> say >>>> "cap" or "capital". >>>> >>>> Teresa >>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Nicholas Parsons >>>> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> HI Anne, >>>>> >>>>> The problem isn't that the pitch doesn't change. The pitch does change. >>>>> The problem is that in addition to the pitch changing VoiceOver still >>>>> says >>>>> the word "capital" before the letter. PERHAPS THE BEST EXAMPLE IS FOR >>>>> YOU >>>>> TO READ SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS SUCH AS THIS SENTENCE BY CHARACTER. >>>>> YOU'LL >>>>> SEE THAT VOICEOVER SAYS THE WORD CAPITAL BEFORE EACH LETTER AS WELL AS >>>>> CHANGING PITCH WHICH MAKES IT VERY TIME CONSUMING TO SPELL A WORD. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Nic >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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