Ah, OK, that does make sense.  I hate those four-finger commands. lol
Donna

On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I prefer to press 2 keys compared to 4.  Especially when all 4 happen to fall 
> on the same side of the keyboard.  Why bend my fingers into knots when I 
> don't have to. haha.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Sep 22, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> At the risk of sounding stupid, what's the advantage of creating a VO 
>> Keyboard command if they both behave the same way?
>> Donna
>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I used the native command for a while, until my brain kicked in and I made 
>>> a VO keyboard command shortcut for it.  They both work the same.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
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>>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So, you use the native command, or you have set up a different one that 
>>>> you use?  It's not a huge deal now that I know what to do, but if there's 
>>>> a way to keep it from happening, I would do that.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've never had this happened.  Maybe its do to the way I'm navigating to 
>>>>> the tables?  I press VO command T to jump to the tables.  I've actually 
>>>>> set up a keyboard command for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> hth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I get that problem sometimes, too. What I have to do is to navigate to 
>>>>>> the splitter immediately after the search field and interact with it. 
>>>>>> Then I press VO-left, where it usually says 0%. Then after pressing 
>>>>>> VO-right, VO usually freezes so I have to restart it, but then the 
>>>>>> bookmarks table appears.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don't ask why it happens in this way. But sometimes the table appears 
>>>>>> and sometimes it does not. This has been the case since Snow Leopard.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>>> Azavia Technologies
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>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That weird.  I don't seem to have a smaller table.  Once I select 
>>>>>>> Bookmarks Bar, after that all I see are a search field, an Add Button, 
>>>>>>> and a New Collection button.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I did it after some fiddling.
>>>>>>>> 1. In Safari, press cmd-option-b for "all bookmarks", or select that 
>>>>>>>> option from the bookmarks menu.
>>>>>>>> 2. Find the larger table; for some reason, history was selected in it 
>>>>>>>> for me, but one option below history is bookmarks bar. Activate that 
>>>>>>>> one, then move to the next table.
>>>>>>>> 3. In this smaller table are all your files and folders inside the 
>>>>>>>> bookmarks bar. Delete will erase them, or you can rename or sort them 
>>>>>>>> (note that I did not try either of these two options, I just deleted).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I must be missing something here.  When I press Cmd 1 it opens the 
>>>>>>>>> Apple site, CMD 2 opens a yahoo search bar.  I don't see either of 
>>>>>>>>> these in my bookmarks list.  That being the case, how do I delete 
>>>>>>>>> them?  Also, I have one bookmark that I no longer need, but 
>>>>>>>>> VO-Shift-M doesn't bring up a context menu, and when I press Delete, 
>>>>>>>>> I'm just taken out of the Bookmarks menu without deleting the item.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Donovan Osborn 
>>>>>>>>> <donovan303...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can delete the default bookmark buttons. VO over the button 
>>>>>>>>>> then press VO+Shift+M for the context menu and you can delete it 
>>>>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Donovan Osborn
>>>>>>>>>> donovan303...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you erase the defaults and replace them with your own, or is 
>>>>>>>>>>> this something osx alone controls?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Brandon Olivares 
>>>>>>>>>>> <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you open your bookmarks and go to the item called Bookmarks Bar 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the sidebar, there are all of your bookmarks where you can use 
>>>>>>>>>>>> command+number. Simply reorder those in the order you desire.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>>>>>>>>> Azavia Technologies
>>>>>>>>>>>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering whether it's possible to change the sites that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are opened by Command plus one of the numbers.  So, for example, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command + 2 opens a Yahoo search page.  Is there any way to set 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that to another site of my choosing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
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