I prefer to press 2 keys compared to 4.  Especially when all 4 happen to fall 
on the same side of the keyboard.  Why bend my fingers into knots when I don't 
have to. haha.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 22, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:

> At the risk of sounding stupid, what's the advantage of creating a VO 
> Keyboard command if they both behave the same way?
> Donna
> On Sep 22, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I used the native command for a while, until my brain kicked in and I made a 
>> VO keyboard command shortcut for it.  They both work the same.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
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>> 
>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So, you use the native command, or you have set up a different one that you 
>>> use?  It's not a huge deal now that I know what to do, but if there's a way 
>>> to keep it from happening, I would do that.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hmm,
>>>> 
>>>> I've never had this happened.  Maybe its do to the way I'm navigating to 
>>>> the tables?  I press VO command T to jump to the tables.  I've actually 
>>>> set up a keyboard command for this.
>>>> 
>>>> hth
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
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>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get that problem sometimes, too. What I have to do is to navigate to 
>>>>> the splitter immediately after the search field and interact with it. 
>>>>> Then I press VO-left, where it usually says 0%. Then after pressing 
>>>>> VO-right, VO usually freezes so I have to restart it, but then the 
>>>>> bookmarks table appears.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't ask why it happens in this way. But sometimes the table appears and 
>>>>> sometimes it does not. This has been the case since Snow Leopard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>> Azavia Technologies
>>>>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That weird.  I don't seem to have a smaller table.  Once I select 
>>>>>> Bookmarks Bar, after that all I see are a search field, an Add Button, 
>>>>>> and a New Collection button.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did it after some fiddling.
>>>>>>> 1. In Safari, press cmd-option-b for "all bookmarks", or select that 
>>>>>>> option from the bookmarks menu.
>>>>>>> 2. Find the larger table; for some reason, history was selected in it 
>>>>>>> for me, but one option below history is bookmarks bar. Activate that 
>>>>>>> one, then move to the next table.
>>>>>>> 3. In this smaller table are all your files and folders inside the 
>>>>>>> bookmarks bar. Delete will erase them, or you can rename or sort them 
>>>>>>> (note that I did not try either of these two options, I just deleted).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I must be missing something here.  When I press Cmd 1 it opens the 
>>>>>>>> Apple site, CMD 2 opens a yahoo search bar.  I don't see either of 
>>>>>>>> these in my bookmarks list.  That being the case, how do I delete 
>>>>>>>> them?  Also, I have one bookmark that I no longer need, but VO-Shift-M 
>>>>>>>> doesn't bring up a context menu, and when I press Delete, I'm just 
>>>>>>>> taken out of the Bookmarks menu without deleting the item.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:27 PM, Donovan Osborn <donovan303...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can delete the default bookmark buttons. VO over the button 
>>>>>>>>> then press VO+Shift+M for the context menu and you can delete it from 
>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Donovan Osborn
>>>>>>>>> donovan303...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Can you erase the defaults and replace them with your own, or is 
>>>>>>>>>> this something osx alone controls?
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Brandon Olivares 
>>>>>>>>>> <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you open your bookmarks and go to the item called Bookmarks Bar 
>>>>>>>>>>> in the sidebar, there are all of your bookmarks where you can use 
>>>>>>>>>>> command+number. Simply reorder those in the order you desire.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>>>>>>>> Azavia Technologies
>>>>>>>>>>> New: ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering whether it's possible to change the sites that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> are opened by Command plus one of the numbers.  So, for example, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Command + 2 opens a Yahoo search page.  Is there any way to set 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that to another site of my choosing?
>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
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