I hear so much talk about VO-Spacebar not working on Mountain Lion.  I haven't 
experienced much of that at all here on my mac mini.  I also am using a 
bluetooth keyboard.  I only recall running into that space bar issue once on a 
web page in Safari.  Everywhere else, it seems to work fine for me.

On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My favorite solution is to use track pad commander and make selections or 
> press buttons with a one finger double tap.  Pressing VO + space one key at a 
> time and releasing them at the same time works, but it is awkward and slower. 
>  
> 
> I have the Apple wireless keyboard with my Mac Mini. Are there any keyboards 
> which don't have that issue with the VO+space command?
> 
> Kristyn 
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi again Sharon.
>> I have been so frustrated with the VO space command not working the way I'm 
>> used to that I got desperate and double tapped the track pad to see what 
>> would happen. It was not turned on, but I may consider turning it on if no 
>> other reason than it will take the place of this thing. Quite by accident, I 
>> found that even with the track pad commander turned off, it will make the 
>> selection. I did have one time when it didn't, but I will test some more and 
>> see if it will work. Maybe you can join me in testing it, too. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Sharon Ballantyne <sbal...@nexicom.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone got a fix workaround for VO spacebar being non-responsive?
>>> Also has anyone got a workaround for theV O F5  toggle not working is there 
>>> some other way or
>>> Assignment for the voice over to be turned off and on?
>>> thanks,
>>> Sharon
>>> On 2012-07-31, at 12:28 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, but it works much better now than it ever did in SL or Lion. :)
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Red.Falcon 
>>>> <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there!
>>>>> Sorry but I did not see you mention if you calibrated the Mac to your 
>>>>> voice this should be helpful!
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> And that feature has been around for a long time It is on my iMac Still 
>>>>> on snowy kitty which I got 2009 and it was there then!
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:59, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've not gone with the F10 idea, as F10 is also mute on the Mac, which 
>>>>>> can cause issues for obvious reasons…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've used the key directly below esc, however, whilst I can make it work 
>>>>>> every now and then not any other time… I tried the alternative of using 
>>>>>> the constantly listen option, being able to call out, computer what time 
>>>>>> is it, rather floats my boat…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> neither option are working for me…! any thoughts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:56, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Neal,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, you need to press and hold the key.  I have also found that it 
>>>>>>> helps to hold it for about a half second before you start speaking.  
>>>>>>> Also, in system prefs make sure you have the right listening method 
>>>>>>> checked.  It's in Accessible Items under Listening key tab.  You have 
>>>>>>> two choices, one is listen when key is pressed, the other is listen 
>>>>>>> when keyword is spoken.
>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have found it thank you, my question now is why is it not working!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have enabled it all, and turned the feature on, yet, even by 
>>>>>>>> changing the command key and restarting nothing happens.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> what is unclear, is am I supposed to press and hold down the key I 
>>>>>>>> nominate?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> thanks for any hands on practical usage info.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What you are talking about is speakable items. Go to system 
>>>>>>>>> preferences, accessibility, and find it in the table of options. From 
>>>>>>>>> there, select the tabs you want and configure things as necessary. I 
>>>>>>>>> recommend going to the commands tab, then the table of command sets, 
>>>>>>>>> and turning on everything.
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no 
>>>>>>>>>> issue, but, how does one ask what day it is etc?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all 
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> These are commands you can give, like "what time is it" or "open 
>>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto". You can even select buttons shown in the currently open 
>>>>>>>>>>> dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all familiar with 
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input 
>>>>>>>>>>> part of that and speakable objects is the other part that accepts 
>>>>>>>>>>> commands for system operations.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how 
>>>>>>>>>>>> does that effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've 
>>>>>>>>>>>> been at work today and not able to keep up with this a lot as they 
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for your patience guys. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a table and select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogs. If you are using a usb microphone, you may have to going 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sound preferences and set the input source to be that USB 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation, would love to try it out. Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking into a Griffin IMike with a Gigaware  are microphone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to it. And, my air conditioner is going in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. Not bad Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only made small corrections to this dictation.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop microphone going through a cheap usb sound card (since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac doesn't support direct input of non-powered mics) but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is still doing really well. In my quick tests, it made no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, I didn't dictate this entire message. I did, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, dictate these last two sentences. I should also add 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a ceiling fan going in the background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
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