Hi Karen,

Do I read your message correctly that you're still using DOS?  If that's the 
case, by all means get a Mac.  Once you get used to it, you will love it.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> profound thanks.  That does make things more clear for me.  Its funny as I 
> have been meaning to ask about dragon dictate, may still for a different 
> reason.
> However this moves me closer to a new mac, since I would have to use a full 
> sized keyboard otherwise.  the smaller laptop keyboards were just not giving 
> me the sort of dexterity control I am used to with my main dos machine with 
> he vo controls very awkward, and I was unsure how I would like all that 
> flipping, smile.
> If one can control more things via voice, then this will make a big 
> difference.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Karen,
>> 
>> There are two different speech features.  You can activate, one, both, or 
>> neither of them.
>> 
>> One is Dictation.  this is new to ML.  It allows you to dictate what you 
>> want to write any time that you are in a text field.  This feature is also 
>> on the newest iPad, and the iPhone 4s.  You can, however, accomplish similar 
>> things  on an older iPhone using apps like Dragon Dictation.
>> 
>> The other is an option in Accessibility under System Prefs called Speakable 
>> items.  This you can configure to let you control many different things on 
>> your Mac, opening and closing apps, opening and closing documents, finding 
>> the time and date, and many other things.  It is closer to Siri on the 
>> iPhone 4s.  It was in older versions of the Mac OS, but it did not work very 
>> well.
>> 
>> Hope this clarifies things.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I see.  Anything you cannot control with this feature?
>>> Karen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, it is new to Mountain Lion. It is on the iPad, but only the third 
>>>> generation one. Of course, it is also on the iPhone 4S, in the form of 
>>>> Siri.
>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> is dictation new to mountain lion?  if so, does it also exist  on things 
>>>>> like the i-pad?
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, the key acts like a push-to-talk, so it works as long as you hold 
>>>>>> it down. I set mine up to listen for a keyword, but then I'm on a 
>>>>>> desktop so don't have to worry about battery life or heat. It's pretty 
>>>>>> neat, though; I can just call out, "Alex, what time is it" and get told, 
>>>>>> or tell it to open an app or quit something.
>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have found it thank you, my question now is why is it not working!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have enabled it all, and turned the feature on, yet, even by changing 
>>>>>>> the command key and restarting nothing happens.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> what is unclear, is am I supposed to press and hold down the key I 
>>>>>>> nominate?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks for any hands on practical usage info.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:43, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What you are talking about is speakable items. Go to system 
>>>>>>>> preferences, accessibility, and find it in the table of options. From 
>>>>>>>> there, select the tabs you want and configure things as necessary. I 
>>>>>>>> recommend going to the commands tab, then the table of command sets, 
>>>>>>>> and turning on everything.
>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
>>>>>>>> <for...@talknav.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sorry, where do you enable that bit though, I mean I can dictate no 
>>>>>>>>> issue, but, how does one ask what day it is etc?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Talks List Administrator
>>>>>>>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an 
>>>>>>>>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all 
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>>>>>>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>>>>>>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:48, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> These are commands you can give, like "what time is it" or "open 
>>>>>>>>>> iPhoto". You can even select buttons shown in the currently open 
>>>>>>>>>> dialog just by speaking them. If you are at all familiar with 
>>>>>>>>>> Windows speech recognition, it's like dictation is the text input 
>>>>>>>>>> part of that and speakable objects is the other part that accepts 
>>>>>>>>>> commands for system operations.
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, easy enough. What is this about speakable Items I'm seeing how 
>>>>>>>>>>> does that effect this. Sorry I'm so late coming into this, I've 
>>>>>>>>>>> been at work today and not able to keep up with this a lot as they 
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't upgraded us yet. Thanks for your patience guys.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You go into system preferences, then accessibility. Interact with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a table and select dictation. Turn it on, then follow the dialogs. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are using a usb microphone, you may have to going to sound 
>>>>>>>>>>>> preferences and set the input source to be that USB microphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just getting used to Mountain Lion. How do you get into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation, would love to try it out. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well Alex, good for you. I love the dictation as well. I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking into a Griffin IMike with a Gigaware  are microphone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to it. And, my air conditioner is going in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> background. Not bad Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only made small corrections to this dictation.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also having great luck with dictation. I have a cheap 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop microphone going through a cheap usb sound card (since 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac doesn't support direct input of non-powered mics) but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is still doing really well. In my quick tests, it made no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes. This, paired with that amazing speakable items 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature, will make me an even lazier person than I already am. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ironically, I didn't dictate this entire message. I did, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, dictate these last two sentences. I should also add 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there's a ceiling fan going in the background.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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