Hi.
It worked that way in SL with Safari 5.0. As soon as 5.1 came out, that ability 
broke.

On 2012-07-02, at 7:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I doubt you will see the reading by line with the down arrow.  That would 
> radically change the way VO navigates the web, and I'm not sure it would be 
> for the better.  It would be selecting text easier though.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I can't 
>> remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them.  
>> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.
>> 
>> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the pathetic 
>> slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to see that 
>> rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random performance bugs that 
>> happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off then back on 
>> again.  So overall performance could do with being improved.
>> 
>> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching 
>> between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful.  I 
>> would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow or 
>> up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL  elements 
>> are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more tables and 
>> headings than VO,  especially in the buggy rotor.
>> 
>> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I 
>> believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to 
>> Apple's website).  
>> 
>> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to 
>> iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac.  
>> There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?
>> 
>> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where the 
>> pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using those voices as 
>> it became too annoying.
>> 
>> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary.  For example 
>> if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and d, you 
>> get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third?  So I think the ability 
>> to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO should grow up 
>> and become a tad more intelligent.  I would like more control over how VO 
>> reads out numbers too.
>> 
>> Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an 
>> HTML area, as something else?  For example when using adium the chat window 
>> is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation window would 
>> be more meaningful.
>> 
>> Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes 
>> store.  The page takes a while to render.  Well actually visually it does 
>> not, but VO seems to think it does.  Actually come to mention it when VO 
>> says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and 
>> perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy.
>> 
>> I spotted another bug today too.  When ordering a smart case for my iPad, VO 
>> was unable to read out the colour options.  When trying to select a colour, 
>> VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 colours.  The work 
>> around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the screen and 
>> read out the description to see if the default green had changed.  Or look 
>> in the basket and hope to god you have not selected pink.  I eventually 
>> performed this task via the Apple Store app on my iPhone which performed 
>> perfectly.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would like 
>>> so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. 
>>> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many 
>>> enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like 
>>> fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. 
>>> I'll go 1st. 
>>> For me its safari. two things for me. 
>>> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover 
>>> doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO 
>>> utility. 
>>> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when 
>>> the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover 
>>> Busy!" Not! 
>>> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 
>>> 
>>> So what are yours? 
>>> 
>>> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to see 
>>> what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! 
>>> 
>>> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! LOL 
>>> 
>>> Daniel   
>>> 
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