Hi there!
Of course this is with Lion!
Not in snowy kitty!
Colin

On 3 Jul 2012, at 00:53, Rachel Feinberg wrote:

> If you don't already have this set, you can go into voiceover utility, to the 
> commanders area, and then to the quick nav tab. And check the box that says 
> 'enable single key webpage navigation when using quick nav."
> then you can use H for heading, b for button, and so on.
> HTH,
> Rachel
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> 
>> So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would also
>> like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. Perhaps as
>> a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but I find it easier
>> to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows screen readers then with
>> voice over. Again this may be my missing something major. And yes the
>> dictionary would be nice my name especially I would like to hear it with its
>> Spanish pronunciation again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able
>> to correct.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
>> squashed in Mountain Lion?
>> 
>> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I can't
>> remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them.
>> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.
>> 
>> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the pathetic
>> slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to see that
>> rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random performance bugs that
>> happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off then back on
>> again.  So overall performance could do with being improved.
>> 
>> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching
>> between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful.  I
>> would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow or
>> up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL  elements
>> are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more tables and
>> headings than VO,  especially in the buggy rotor.
>> 
>> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I
>> believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to
>> Apple's website).  
>> 
>> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to
>> iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac.
>> There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?
>> 
>> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where the
>> pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using those voices as
>> it became too annoying.
>> 
>> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary.  For example
>> if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and d, you
>> get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third?  So I think the ability
>> to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO should grow up
>> and become a tad more intelligent.  I would like more control over how VO
>> reads out numbers too.
>> 
>> Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an
>> HTML area, as something else?  For example when using adium the chat window
>> is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation window would
>> be more meaningful.
>> 
>> Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes
>> store.  The page takes a while to render.  Well actually visually it does
>> not, but VO seems to think it does.  Actually come to mention it when VO
>> says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and
>> perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy.
>> 
>> I spotted another bug today too.  When ordering a smart case for my iPad, VO
>> was unable to read out the colour options.  When trying to select a colour,
>> VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 colours.  The work
>> around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the screen and
>> read out the description to see if the default green had changed.  Or look
>> in the basket and hope to god you have not selected pink.  I eventually
>> performed this task via the Apple Store app on my iPhone which performed
>> perfectly.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would
>> like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. 
>>> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many
>> enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like
>> fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. 
>>> I'll go 1st. 
>>> For me its safari. two things for me. 
>>> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover
>> doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility.
>> 
>>> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when
>> the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover Busy!"
>> Not! 
>>> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 
>>> 
>>> So what are yours? 
>>> 
>>> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to see
>> what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! 
>>> 
>>> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! LOL 
>>> 
>>> Daniel   
>>> 
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