These two brf files are on snowy kitty. Is that okay? Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hey GiGi! > > A brf file? please send it to me. > > Kawal. > > On 2 Apr 2012, at 06:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Hi Marc. >> People have said that you have to forget everything about other screen >> readers when learning VoiceOver. I agree with that, and I don't. Interacting >> is a different concept but once you understand that interacting is a way of >> restricting where the screen reader's cursor goes, then it makes sense. >> However, a screen reader, whether on Windows or the Mac, basically has the >> same job. Before I got my Mac, I downloaded the brf file on the Apple web >> site that was the documentation for VoiceOver. I am famous for sitting down >> and reading the software documentation before starting on the program. I >> usually read all the way through at least once. That way, I can kind of >> remember something is " the book I want to find, even if I don't remember >> all the details. My first computer was an Apple II E, so I have been doing >> computer learning this way for a long time. >> >> I will say that I had a few bad moments before i learned about command-Z. >> That's to cancel what you did. My husband was not too happy the time I >> copied 50 files to his computer because I didn't know where I was. That's >> computers for you. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Hi, Marc, >>> >>> As long as you're willing to jump right in, and not make many screen-reader >>> comparisons between Mac and windows, and you enjoy learning new ways of >>> doing things, then just dive right in. This is what I did, and I haven't >>> regretted it. I got my Mac Mini about two years ago, and I was like a >>> little kid with a new toy. Also, there is always this list if you get stuck. >>> >>> Take care, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>> Feynman >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: >>> >>>> I just wanted to thank all for the info they've given me so far, it's >>>> much appreciated! I kind of disappeared, I know, due to a busy >>>> weekend. I will be picking people's brains over the next little while >>>> so please have patience with me too! Really appreciate the info about >>>> fb, gmail and twitter btw. :) >>>> >>>> I feel like I did before getting the iPhone, I was on the fence until >>>> I finally took the plunge... then was petrified for the first few days >>>> I was using it. After about a week or two though, I started learning >>>> things and taught myself... now I can't imagine not having one. It >>>> sounds like the same can be said regarding Macs? >>>> >>>> My biggest erm... hang-ups I guess... are that I run a wifi network >>>> from my current PC that my parents feed off of with a network cable >>>> through a router. I am totally clueless as to whether or not a PC/Mac >>>> network is possible and what it takes to do that, if so. I also have >>>> my programs that I use with Windows... I'm set in my ways... with mp3 >>>> players, mp3 volume amplifiers (I hate using soundcheck for CD volume >>>> normalization) sound editors to create ringtones, etc. I'm just very >>>> fearful that there will be something I take for granted now that won't >>>> be available after switching over and by then it'll be too late, you >>>> know? >>>> >>>> Thus the education... all answers so far have been quite helpful >>>> though so keep 'em coming and thanks! :) >>>> >>>> -Marc >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/1/12, Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi I'm Jenny, >>>>> >>>>> I found it hard to make the switch at first, but with the people on this >>>>> list and some patience I wouldn't go back to windows if you paid me. My >>>>> husband has a PC and I use it begrudgingly if I have to since that's where >>>>> all our music is. I don't yet have an external drive for my Mac and can't >>>>> afford one right now. >>>>> >>>>> Please don't hesitate to ask questions of this list. No question is >>>>> stupid >>>>> or anything like that. Again, Just be patient. >>>>> >>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks >>>>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Beefcakes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey welcome! Go for the Mac! You'll never regret it. Johnny >>>>>> >>>>>> Cakes >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau <marcrochel...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post >>>>>>> to MacVisionaries... be gentle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing >>>>>>> an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm >>>>>>> thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan >>>>>>> on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an >>>>>>> Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least >>>>>>> entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the >>>>>>> assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five >>>>>>> years for those with accessibility needs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up >>>>>>> this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask >>>>>>> on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. >>>>>>> They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. >>>>>>> On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would >>>>>>> probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer >>>>>>> because of other questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for >>>>>>> such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all >>>>>>> the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning >>>>>>> about the wonderful world of Mac! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Marc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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