Hi Marc. People have said that you have to forget everything about other screen readers when learning VoiceOver. I agree with that, and I don't. Interacting is a different concept but once you understand that interacting is a way of restricting where the screen reader's cursor goes, then it makes sense. However, a screen reader, whether on Windows or the Mac, basically has the same job. Before I got my Mac, I downloaded the brf file on the Apple web site that was the documentation for VoiceOver. I am famous for sitting down and reading the software documentation before starting on the program. I usually read all the way through at least once. That way, I can kind of remember something is " the book I want to find, even if I don't remember all the details. My first computer was an Apple II E, so I have been doing computer learning this way for a long time.
I will say that I had a few bad moments before i learned about command-Z. That's to cancel what you did. My husband was not too happy the time I copied 50 files to his computer because I didn't know where I was. That's computers for you. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, Marc, > > As long as you're willing to jump right in, and not make many screen-reader > comparisons between Mac and windows, and you enjoy learning new ways of doing > things, then just dive right in. This is what I did, and I haven't regretted > it. I got my Mac Mini about two years ago, and I was like a little kid with a > new toy. Also, there is always this list if you get stuck. > > Take care, > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: > >> I just wanted to thank all for the info they've given me so far, it's >> much appreciated! I kind of disappeared, I know, due to a busy >> weekend. I will be picking people's brains over the next little while >> so please have patience with me too! Really appreciate the info about >> fb, gmail and twitter btw. :) >> >> I feel like I did before getting the iPhone, I was on the fence until >> I finally took the plunge... then was petrified for the first few days >> I was using it. After about a week or two though, I started learning >> things and taught myself... now I can't imagine not having one. It >> sounds like the same can be said regarding Macs? >> >> My biggest erm... hang-ups I guess... are that I run a wifi network >> from my current PC that my parents feed off of with a network cable >> through a router. I am totally clueless as to whether or not a PC/Mac >> network is possible and what it takes to do that, if so. I also have >> my programs that I use with Windows... I'm set in my ways... with mp3 >> players, mp3 volume amplifiers (I hate using soundcheck for CD volume >> normalization) sound editors to create ringtones, etc. I'm just very >> fearful that there will be something I take for granted now that won't >> be available after switching over and by then it'll be too late, you >> know? >> >> Thus the education... all answers so far have been quite helpful >> though so keep 'em coming and thanks! :) >> >> -Marc >> >> >> On 4/1/12, Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi I'm Jenny, >>> >>> I found it hard to make the switch at first, but with the people on this >>> list and some patience I wouldn't go back to windows if you paid me. My >>> husband has a PC and I use it begrudgingly if I have to since that's where >>> all our music is. I don't yet have an external drive for my Mac and can't >>> afford one right now. >>> >>> Please don't hesitate to ask questions of this list. No question is stupid >>> or anything like that. Again, Just be patient. >>> >>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks >>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Beefcakes wrote: >>> >>>> Hey welcome! Go for the Mac! You'll never regret it. Johnny >>>> >>>> Cakes >>>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau <marcrochel...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post >>>>> to MacVisionaries... be gentle. >>>>> >>>>> In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing >>>>> an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm >>>>> thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan >>>>> on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an >>>>> Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least >>>>> entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the >>>>> assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five >>>>> years for those with accessibility needs. >>>>> >>>>> They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up >>>>> this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. >>>>> >>>>> With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask >>>>> on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. >>>>> They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. >>>>> On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would >>>>> probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer >>>>> because of other questions. >>>>> >>>>> So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for >>>>> such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all >>>>> the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning >>>>> about the wonderful world of Mac! :) >>>>> >>>>> -Marc >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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