That's fine. On 2 Apr 2012, at 07:30 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> These two brf files are on snowy kitty. Is that okay? > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hey GiGi! >> >> A brf file? please send it to me. >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 2 Apr 2012, at 06:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> Hi Marc. >>> People have said that you have to forget everything about other screen >>> readers when learning VoiceOver. I agree with that, and I don't. >>> Interacting is a different concept but once you understand that interacting >>> is a way of restricting where the screen reader's cursor goes, then it >>> makes sense. However, a screen reader, whether on Windows or the Mac, >>> basically has the same job. Before I got my Mac, I downloaded the brf file >>> on the Apple web site that was the documentation for VoiceOver. I am famous >>> for sitting down and reading the software documentation before starting on >>> the program. I usually read all the way through at least once. That way, I >>> can kind of remember something is " the book I want to find, even if I >>> don't remember all the details. My first computer was an Apple II E, so I >>> have been doing computer learning this way for a long time. >>> >>> I will say that I had a few bad moments before i learned about command-Z. >>> That's to cancel what you did. My husband was not too happy the time I >>> copied 50 files to his computer because I didn't know where I was. That's >>> computers for you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> Eugenia Firth >>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Marc, >>>> >>>> As long as you're willing to jump right in, and not make many >>>> screen-reader comparisons between Mac and windows, and you enjoy learning >>>> new ways of doing things, then just dive right in. This is what I did, and >>>> I haven't regretted it. I got my Mac Mini about two years ago, and I was >>>> like a little kid with a new toy. Also, there is always this list if you >>>> get stuck. >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Teresa >>>> >>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>>> Feynman >>>> >>>> On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Marc Rocheleau wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just wanted to thank all for the info they've given me so far, it's >>>>> much appreciated! I kind of disappeared, I know, due to a busy >>>>> weekend. I will be picking people's brains over the next little while >>>>> so please have patience with me too! Really appreciate the info about >>>>> fb, gmail and twitter btw. :) >>>>> >>>>> I feel like I did before getting the iPhone, I was on the fence until >>>>> I finally took the plunge... then was petrified for the first few days >>>>> I was using it. After about a week or two though, I started learning >>>>> things and taught myself... now I can't imagine not having one. It >>>>> sounds like the same can be said regarding Macs? >>>>> >>>>> My biggest erm... hang-ups I guess... are that I run a wifi network >>>>> from my current PC that my parents feed off of with a network cable >>>>> through a router. I am totally clueless as to whether or not a PC/Mac >>>>> network is possible and what it takes to do that, if so. I also have >>>>> my programs that I use with Windows... I'm set in my ways... with mp3 >>>>> players, mp3 volume amplifiers (I hate using soundcheck for CD volume >>>>> normalization) sound editors to create ringtones, etc. I'm just very >>>>> fearful that there will be something I take for granted now that won't >>>>> be available after switching over and by then it'll be too late, you >>>>> know? >>>>> >>>>> Thus the education... all answers so far have been quite helpful >>>>> though so keep 'em coming and thanks! :) >>>>> >>>>> -Marc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4/1/12, Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi I'm Jenny, >>>>>> >>>>>> I found it hard to make the switch at first, but with the people on this >>>>>> list and some patience I wouldn't go back to windows if you paid me. My >>>>>> husband has a PC and I use it begrudgingly if I have to since that's >>>>>> where >>>>>> all our music is. I don't yet have an external drive for my Mac and >>>>>> can't >>>>>> afford one right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please don't hesitate to ask questions of this list. No question is >>>>>> stupid >>>>>> or anything like that. Again, Just be patient. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks >>>>>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Beefcakes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey welcome! Go for the Mac! You'll never regret it. Johnny >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cakes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Marc Rocheleau <marcrochel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm a transplant from the viphone list here and this is my first post >>>>>>>> to MacVisionaries... be gentle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the same way I used that list to educate myself before purchasing >>>>>>>> an iPhone, I'm hoping to learn some stuff about the Mac here since I'm >>>>>>>> thinking of making the jump. Seeing as how I have the iPhone 4, plan >>>>>>>> on getting the next iPhone that's released in the fall and own an >>>>>>>> Apple TV, I figured it made sense to migrate to the Mac... or at least >>>>>>>> entertain the possibility. I live in Ontario and, thanks to the >>>>>>>> assistive devices program, 75% of a new computer is covered every five >>>>>>>> years for those with accessibility needs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They recently started covering Apple products and my five years is up >>>>>>>> this fall so I was thinking of taking full advantage of this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With that being said, I have a variety of different questions to ask >>>>>>>> on here. I just wanted to know what the best way to go about it was. >>>>>>>> They cover a wide range of topics and I don't want to spam the list. >>>>>>>> On the other side however, putting them all in one e-mail would >>>>>>>> probably deter people from viewing certain questions they could answer >>>>>>>> because of other questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So erm... I guess I'm asking what standard practice is around here for >>>>>>>> such things. I bet you guys get the same questions from new comers all >>>>>>>> the time so I don't want to be repetitive either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any advice you can lend and I look forward to learning >>>>>>>> about the wonderful world of Mac! :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Marc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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