I did have some of the Windows nostalgia factor for trying Winamp, but mostly 
I'm sometimes dangerously curious. I just had to try it and find out how 
accessible it was.

Teresa

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On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:

> Oh, that makes sense.
> Donna
> On Nov 5, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> The music under discussion is music gotten outside of iTunes.
>> 
>> On 2011-11-05, at 10:49 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>> 
>>> I hope I'm not being dense here, but I don't get it.  So you're saying that 
>>> if I stick a CD into my computer and import that CD into iTunes, I end up 
>>> with two copies of the file?  Obviously one is in the iTunes media folder, 
>>> but where on earth would the other one be?  All of my music is either 
>>> purchased from the iTunes store, or imported directly from CDs I owned, so 
>>> I don't see how I'm ending up with duplicate copies.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I don't understand some parts of this.  Yes, iTunes is library dependant.  
>>>> But I don't look at this as a negative.  Yes, it does make a duplicate 
>>>> copy when you import a song but, only if you want it to.  You can easily 
>>>> go into iTunes preferences and under advanced uncheck Copy files to iTunes 
>>>> Media folder when adding to library.  But, since I have my music and other 
>>>> media save on the harddrive of my computer, I prefer this on when copying 
>>>> music from an external drive.  I admit, it takes some work to set up 
>>>> iTunes the first time if you have a large library.  But after that, its 
>>>> super easy to use in my opinion.  As for just playing a song in my finder, 
>>>> I just use quick look.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
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>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, to speak frankly, I will tell you; at least from my point of view.  
>>>>> With regard to ITunes as a player, (and mind you I speak here strictly in 
>>>>> terms of the layer itself), I can't argue with it.  Well, almost.  ITunes 
>>>>> doesn't do ENQ.  Okay, there's the ITunes DJ thingie I grant you, but, I 
>>>>> can't find tracks easily with that, and, besides, I don't want to be 
>>>>> adding tracks and files to the ITunes Library all the time just to make 
>>>>> them easier to find.  Now, we come to the real issue.  ITunes is so damn 
>>>>> library dependant.  The ITunes library really sucks!  Let's say I have 
>>>>> the song "Life Without you" and it's in the .m4a for mat.  Well, I have 
>>>>> it on my hard drive; but, when I add it to my ITunes library, it creates 
>>>>> a duplicate file of exactly the same size.  That means I've got two 
>>>>> copies of the file where as I only wish to have just one.  that's a waste 
>>>>> of disk space.  The ITunes library is so cluncky it's beyond belief.  I 
>>>>> have numorous loose files which are not tagged and which I have no wish 
>>>>> to add to the ITunes Library thus making unnecessary duplicates.  Much 
>>>>> better, so far as I am concerned, to have a layer which has ENQ and which 
>>>>> can be triggered directly from the finder window.  In short, you locate 
>>>>> your first file in the finder, and, you can ENQ that file in to your 
>>>>> player directly.  Then, the next file and the next and so forth.  The 
>>>>> player would also allow you to directly control the cross fading between 
>>>>> files and no lag time at all between files.  That's just the start.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>> 
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hear people say this a lot but, really?  Whats so bad about iTunes on 
>>>>>> the Mac?  I have no problems with it what so ever.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 5, 2011, at 8:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi donna,  Just about anything is preferable to ITunes, but I think 
>>>>>>> right now it's just the novelty of the thing for us windows switchers 
>>>>>>> who have fond memories of winamp for windows.  Especially before it got 
>>>>>>> bought out by AOL.  These days I get my windows clients to start out on 
>>>>>>> the KM player since winamp is now chuck full of bloatware.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not tempted to try it myself since vlc does what I need but winamp 
>>>>>>> for the mac has been too long in coming for sure.  Hopefully the great 
>>>>>>> pioneers on this list will convince AOL to take an accessible direction 
>>>>>>> with winamp development and then we'll have yet another option.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
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>>>>>>> On 2011-11-05, at 8:43 AM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I haven't really followed the winamp thread, but I'm curious as to why 
>>>>>>>> anyone would go to all the trouble that seems to be involved in using 
>>>>>>>> it?  Is there some reason that it's preferable to iTunes?
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Donna
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