I think I enjoy the classic mail view more, though i haven't really wanted to 
use the new layout so we'll see. no issues with mail here, just mainly with 
safari and the item chooser
On Jul 27, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Can you ever say that again Jeffry.  Could not agree with you more.  After 
> all, look at me.  I was of the irronious opinion that Mail would take me 
> forever to get used to because of all the complaints; and, what happened, 
> within the same night I installed Lion, I'd pretty much worked it out.  I'm 
> talking about the new layout not the classic one.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
> 
>> Here's my take on this.
>> Yall quit your complaining and learn to deal with the changes. 
>> No, nothin's perfect but geez! Let's just go on and complain just because 
>> something has to be accessed differently than before. Yeah that's the way to 
>> solve problems except not.
>> So, while yall are at it, just go report everything that's just not "the 
>> same as it was before" to Apple except that won't solve nothin.
>> Yes, like everything Lion has it's bugs and such but just because acts or 
>> looks or does anything differently don't mean it's broken.
>> For example I did get confused by the new layout in Apple Mail at first so 
>> switched to classic view for a bit. Then what did I do, did I write here and 
>> complain about it like a little kid? Nope, I read help and read other 
>> documentation to help to better get used to everything; and now, I'm using 
>> Mail in the new layout which I don't have a problem with.
>> Sorry but I get tired sometimes going through my E-Mail and seeing 
>> complaints that this is "broken" or "doesn't work the same way as it did in 
>> SL." Everything's gottta change at some peoint whether we like it or not.
>> I'm sorry if I get kicked off the list for this, but I for one get tired of 
>> seeing complaints and such in my Inbox every day since Lion cae out. Yeah I 
>> could just go on and dellete which I usually do, but at some point it just 
>> gets annoying. If it looks like I'm trying to start something, i'm not, just 
>> stating my opinion.
>> Now I don't have a problem woth reporting bugs and such because if they 
>> were't what out wouldn't get fixed but complaining has its limits.
>> Thanks,
>> Jeffrey
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:02 PM, David Tanner wrote:
>> 
>>> Then go back to the classic view and VO-j will work perfectly for you.  I 
>>> sat my email to sort by date of receipt and VO-j works wonderfully.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carlene knight" 
>>> <carlenefor...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: yet another VO feature broken?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can't just press VO/j to jump from an open message to the messages table 
>>> either.  The conversation method of looking at messages is ok, but again, 
>>> more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message.  What a pain 
>>> not having that option.   Things should get easier, not harder.  I'm 
>>> whining, so I'll shut up, but urrrrrgggg!
>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>> THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't 
>>>>> seem to work under the new layout at least.  There is always the official 
>>>>> search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages which 
>>>>> have been improved in Lion.  See Mail Help.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Zack.
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific person, I 
>>>>>> could just type the first couple of letters of their name and I would be 
>>>>>> taken to a message from that sender.  This no longer works on my 
>>>>>> machine.  Can someone confirm?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Donna
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