Yes, VO definitely says how many mail messages there are in a conversation
under the new layout, but it never said that for me in snow leopard.  Also,
about ending up in hte message content window, I usually arrow up and down a
conversation, then read all the messages, and then shift tab back to the
message list and delete the conversation.  I haven't found my mac less
pleasant to use at all.  The new activities are making my life easier, and I
like the improved Alex.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> VO says this when you move between conversations with arrow keys or
> VO-arrow keys.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:43 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> > Does VO say this on its own?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 26 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Kawal,
> >> VO definitely tells me how many messages I have in a given thread.  I'm
> not sure why yours wouldn't.  I hear something like "Six message
> conversation."  I've discovered that low verbosity is really nice with Mail.
> >> Best,
> >> Zack.
> >> On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> I have been reading all the messages with interest on and off, and wish
> to add, when there are no more messages to read in threaded view, I end up
> in the message content which is annoying.  Is that meant to happen?  Also VO
> will not tell you how many messages there are in a thread which I miss so
> mail is broken!
> >>>
> >>> Kawal.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On 26 Jul 2011, at 12:10 PM, Donna Goodin <goodi...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I agree.  Though Lion's brought some nice features, mostly I feel like
> my Mac is less pleasant to use now.
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Donna
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 1:20 AM, carlene knight wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I can't just press VO/j to jump from an open message to the messages
> table either.  The conversation method of looking at messages is ok, but
> again, more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message.  What a
> pain not having that option.   Things should get easier, not harder.  I'm
> whining, so I'll shut up, but urrrrrgggg!
> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Donna,
> >>>>>>> THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it
> doesn't seem to work under the new layout at least.  There is always the
> official search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages
> which have been improved in Lion.  See Mail Help.
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> Zack.
> >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific
> person, I could just type the first couple of letters of their name and I
> would be taken to a message from that sender.  This no longer works on my
> machine.  Can someone confirm?
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>>>
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