Couldn't agree more. I came back on here to be able to keep up with people's experiences of Lion and nothing more, and that has been useful, but every new OS brings changes, fact. My way of dealing with mail was to try the new layout and wait to see what tips I found, and in the main I really like it, but if I want to do certain things I know I can switch back and forth between the two views. Isn't that extra flexibility? I have one issue with Lion about which I've contacted a developer, and they already knew about the issue and will have an update soon that will fix it. People on here are so negative that I will not name them! I know others who have left this list due to the sheer moaning that some people do. They need to realise that change is inevitable and find out how to deal with new ways of doing things before mouthing off! That doesn't mean I don't think genuine bugs and inconveniences shouldn't be reported though.
Cheers Dave On 27 Jul 2011, at 03:26, Jeffrey Shockley wrote: > Here's my take on this. > Yall quit your complaining and learn to deal with the changes. > No, nothin's perfect but geez! Let's just go on and complain just because > something has to be accessed differently than before. Yeah that's the way to > solve problems except not. > So, while yall are at it, just go report everything that's just not "the same > as it was before" to Apple except that won't solve nothin. > Yes, like everything Lion has it's bugs and such but just because acts or > looks or does anything differently don't mean it's broken. > For example I did get confused by the new layout in Apple Mail at first so > switched to classic view for a bit. Then what did I do, did I write here and > complain about it like a little kid? Nope, I read help and read other > documentation to help to better get used to everything; and now, I'm using > Mail in the new layout which I don't have a problem with. > Sorry but I get tired sometimes going through my E-Mail and seeing complaints > that this is "broken" or "doesn't work the same way as it did in SL." > Everything's gottta change at some peoint whether we like it or not. > I'm sorry if I get kicked off the list for this, but I for one get tired of > seeing complaints and such in my Inbox every day since Lion cae out. Yeah I > could just go on and dellete which I usually do, but at some point it just > gets annoying. If it looks like I'm trying to start something, i'm not, just > stating my opinion. > Now I don't have a problem woth reporting bugs and such because if they > were't what out wouldn't get fixed but complaining has its limits. > Thanks, > Jeffrey > On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:02 PM, David Tanner wrote: > >> Then go back to the classic view and VO-j will work perfectly for you. I >> sat my email to sort by date of receipt and VO-j works wonderfully. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "carlene knight" <carlenefor...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:20 AM >> Subject: Re: yet another VO feature broken? >> >> >> I can't just press VO/j to jump from an open message to the messages table >> either. The conversation method of looking at messages is ok, but again, >> more cumbersome as you have to open and close each message. What a pain not >> having that option. Things should get easier, not harder. I'm whining, so >> I'll shut up, but urrrrrgggg! >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't >>>> seem to work under the new layout at least. There is always the official >>>> search box in the Mail toolbar, and other ways to find messages which have >>>> been improved in Lion. See Mail Help. >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific person, I >>>>> could just type the first couple of letters of their name and I would be >>>>> taken to a message from that sender. 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