Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and what it means. lol! On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still > restore. Apple won't know a thing. > On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig >> up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot >> restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks. >> >> S >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method >>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between >>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the >>> least, it's an experience. >>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the >>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming >>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the >>> idea of safari not working. >>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted >>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid. >>> >>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales <nothingbutl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated >>>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't >>>> go >>>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need >>>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I >>>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to >>>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment. >>>> >>>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode >>>> and >>>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone >>>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information >>>> on >>>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of >>>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post, >>>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple >>>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important >>>> info. >>>> >>>> Update #2 : The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many >>>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect: >>>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is >>>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below >>>> applies. >>>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac >>>> assistance. >>>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like >>>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However, >>>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white >>>> icon). Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail >>>> (Safari being the most noticeable example). >>>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or >>>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at >>>> the Apple logo). You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right >>>> now”. >>>> End of excerpt. >>>> >>>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency >>>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This >>>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend, >>>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so >>>> I >>>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have >>>> that problem. >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my >>>>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like >>>>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that >>>>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at >>>>>> all. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would >>>>>>> nit >>>>>>> consider jailbreaking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's what I'm reading. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>>>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name >>>>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the >>>>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. >>>>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>>>>>>>>>> designed >>>>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb >>>>>>>>>>> apps, >>>>>>>>>>> also described in jb104. >>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>>>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak >>>>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>>>> Hth, >>>>>>>>>>> Rose >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to >>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >>>>>>>>>>>> shot >>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak >>>>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an >>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted >>>>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev >>>>>>>>>>>>> team >>>>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. 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