As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still restore. Apple won't know a thing. On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up > the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore > to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks. > > S > On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > >> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method >> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between >> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the >> least, it's an experience. >> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the >> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming >> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the >> idea of safari not working. >> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted >> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid. >> >> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales <nothingbutl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated >>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go >>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need >>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I >>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to >>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment. >>> >>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and >>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone >>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on >>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of >>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post, >>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple >>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important >>> info. >>> >>> Update #2 : The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many >>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect: >>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is >>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below >>> applies. >>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance. >>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like >>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However, >>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white >>> icon). Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail >>> (Safari being the most noticeable example). >>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or >>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at >>> the Apple logo). You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”. >>> End of excerpt. >>> >>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency >>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This >>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend, >>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I >>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have >>> that problem. >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun. >>>> >>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my >>>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like >>>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that >>>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at >>>>> all. >>>>> >>>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would >>>>>> nit >>>>>> consider jailbreaking. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That's what I'm reading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name >>>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the >>>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. >>>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>>>>>>>>> designed >>>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb >>>>>>>>>> apps, >>>>>>>>>> also described in jb104. >>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>>>>>>>>> jailbreak >>>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>>> Hth, >>>>>>>>>> Rose >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to >>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >>>>>>>>>>> shot >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak >>>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover >>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but >>>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. >>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, >>>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted >>>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev >>>>>>>>>>>> team >>>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. 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